Ze First Debate

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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Man what a debate. Harris started off shaky but just for a little bit. Man she got into her rhythm fast. She was needling him, poking him, throwing body shots, she was prepared and disciplined. Sure it could have been a little better but honestly you could not ask for much more than this. I am so proud and so excited to vote for her this fall. And apparently so is Taylor Swift dropping the childless cat lady bomb.

The crowd at the debate party, it was packed, The vibe was so good, beers, they provided food, we had a couple speakers before and right after the debate said the right things. The energy was amazing. I am in such a good fucking mood. But remember, do something. Seriously go phone bank, or if you don't like to talk on the phone write postcards, or if you don't like to write postcards go door knocking.

Do something. I have one door knocking trip planned in Pennsylvania. And doing a postcard night at one of my riding buddies friends next week. Going to try to do at least one more thing, besides being my usual charming self about politics to all the people I know.

Let's fucking destroy Trump people
 

eelw

Diamond Member
Dec 4, 1999
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Lol CNN focus group of undecided voters. 4 thought the orange monkey won the debate. Only one has talked so far but she voted orange monkey twice already.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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And most of them are just as incoherent sharing fake stories and fake pictures on social media.
WTF Vance is defending the eating cats bit
Why would you expect anything less?

Two fold. First, like North Korea, if Dear Leader tells you to jump. You jump. Republicans are the same. Slaves to a Master. Just as they want in society.
Second, reality is determined on a whim. They think it sounds good to scream and rage about people of color eating animals. So the lemmings leap without thinking. Especially after Dear Leader endorses it. That's how facts are created in the Republican Alt Reality.

Having rejected society, Republicans have gone Feral. They will never accept the election, or the continued existence of our Democracy.
 

APU_Fusion

Golden Member
Dec 16, 2013
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Yeaa. They’re clearly deluded and probably weren’t actually undecided.
If you vote for Trump after this you want the end of America. Illegals immigrants are eating our pets?. Trump and his maga have jumped the shark.

What’s next Greenman?. Unicorns are shitting zombies out their ass to serve Hilary Clinton. What absolute insanity.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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I wasn't able to watch because my neighborhood was being attacked by millions of criminal immigrants wearing 'Thanks Kamala Harris for letting us in' badges Thank God I'm well armed because there's at least a thousand of them dead in my front yard.

I do have some concepts of how the debate went.
 
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akugami

Diamond Member
Feb 14, 2005
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If you vote for Trump after this you want the end of America. Illegals immigrants are eating our pets?. Trump and his maga have jumped the shark.

What’s next Greenman?. Unicorns are shitting zombies out their ass to serve Hilary Clinton. What absolute insanity.

Don't be ridiculous. It's zombies shitting out unicorns to serve as Hilary's transgender ass slaves.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I didn’t even think to check in here but that was a knockout! She baited Trump and he fell for it every time. She was able to get out her policies and positions and Trump did his usual deflect, lie, and ramble on, while never answering the questions posed to him.

His rant about illegals eating dogs was freaken hilarious!

Harris’s line about being fired by 80 million people and the Putin line about Putin eating him for lunch was big.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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I didn’t even think to check in here but that was a knockout! She baited Trump and he fell for it every time. She was able to get out her policies and positions and Trump did his usual deflect, lie, and ramble on, while never answering the questions posed to him.

His rant about illegals eating dogs was freaken hilarious!

Harris’s line about being fired by 80 million people and the Putin line about Putin eating him for lunch was big.
What got me was how tactical she was being.

When the moderators actually asked an immigration question, (something Trump can get traction with) she answered then veered into attacking his rallies.

Instead of hitting her where she was less strong he took the bait and ranted about rallies. Was a thing of beauty.
 

jdubs03

Senior member
Oct 1, 2013
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If you vote for Trump after this you want the end of America. Illegals immigrants are eating our pets?. Trump and his maga have jumped the shark.

What’s next Greenman?. Unicorns are shitting zombies out their ass to serve Hilary Clinton. What absolute insanity.
I really struggle to see where the thought process is for people who consider to vote for him. Is it really just about this pretense of tax cuts/trickle-down economics and immigrant fear-mongering? It’s that or they’re hanging onto to inflation occurring during the Biden administration, a lot of it no fault of Bidens.

The Pew Survey that came out the other day blew my mind. It was absolutely ridiculous to see people say Trump was only 2 points down on handling health care issues and only 11 points down on abortion issues. 5 points AHEAD on bringing the country together. Wild, just idk how to explain it. Completely bought in in some alternate reality. It’s like they can’t bring themselves to see what the truth is.

At least there is this:
There have to be a solid contingent of independents/undecideds there.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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It's tonight, yeah? Will you be watching the shit show?

Should be easy to dunk on Donald, and Kamala showed she doesn't mind going attack dog mode back in 2020. Hope her handlers turn her loose instead of advising her to hold back. People legitimately worried about candidates being too divisive yet still willing to consider Trump a legitimate candidate are basically unreachable because their "standards" clearly differ for Democrats and Republicans.

I'll probably just wait for highlight clips tomorrow unless I'm really bored. Even then I probably won't be able to watch too much before getting irritated.
I watched ABC coverage. After it ended they interviewed Tim Walz and then JD Vance. I have it paused right now about 20 seconds into Vance's spiel because he's an intolerable prick, full of shit and just trying to pull the wool over my eyes. FUCK HIM.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Lol CNN focus group of undecided voters. 4 thought the orange monkey won the debate. Only one has talked so far but she voted orange monkey twice already.
Yeah, I doubt she was very undecided to start with.
 
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Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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What got me was how tactical she was being.

When the moderators actually asked an immigration question, (something Trump can get traction with) she answered then veered into attacking his rallies.

Instead of hitting her where she was less strong he took the bait and ranted about rallies. Was a thing of beauty.
Yeah, that was an amazing move. Completely kneecapped what should've been his "strongest" response.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Gov. Jared Polis signed House Bill 1279, which allows abortions during labor and delivery.
Did it occur to you because of medical complications abortions may have to happen late term. That decision needs to between a woman and her doctor.

Find me one case where a woman at 8+ months decides to abort a healthy fetus. Now find a doctor who will perform that abortion. It doesn’t happen.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Don't think they were really undecided.

I don't think a single Trump voter will change their mind.. his support is baked in.

But the others.. if they don't hate being led by a woman.. there may be an opening for her to get some votes there.

Hopefully it can make the difference between a dictatorship and a republic if we can still keep it.
 

GoPackGo

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 2003
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Where are all these millions of illegals taking jobs? Everywhere I go there is a manual and service labor shortage.

Plus Biden isn't a king... he can't just do things by signing stuff... especially with this USSC.

Afghanistan was Trumps fault and Kamala should have made him own it more than she did.

Trump just spouted the same crap and fear mongering that he did in 2016.

Remember why gas was cheap in 2020? No one was travelling or flying. Oil Prices basically went to zero for a while.

And when talking about deporting illegals, no one called him out on his yes to going door to door statement...that's some Nazi level stuff right there.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I wish Harris or the media called on Trump on his claim he will fix Ukraine if he wins before taking office. I learned in 5th grade that is illegal. Someone should tell the orange Mr Law and Order
 
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