Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Tup3x

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Yes. Why wouldnt it be?

Yes with cutdown AVX-512 to save die space

Zen 5 in Strix is far more different than RPC compared to GLC if anything.

It's not only the lack of 512-bit wide datapath, the vector PRF for 128- and 256-bit operations is smaller and the FADD latency is higher.

Yep. Cache or even manufacturing process means little. Zen 5 in Strix is indeed quite a bit different than on desktop (let alone monolithic die) yet it's indeed Zen 5. Considering how little has changed Intel side, it's fairly accurate to say that they are "pretty much the same thing" even though they aren't exactly the same thing.
 
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MS_AT

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I know what mysticial said.
Strix is also 2c effective and has the same scheduler hazard.
I am getting lost in the hazards, do you mean the scheduler hazard that adds 1 cycle latency to ops that are supposed to be 1 cycle only or is there some otherwise undocumented FADD specific scheduler hazard that prevents 2 cycle FADDs to be used every time? As according to all official info on the former, it shouldn't apply to FADD as FADD is anyway is at least 2 cycle op.
 

LightningZ71

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Has anyone seen how Phoenix/Hawkpoint did after the windows updates and how they compare to Strix Point in ST and MT afterwards? I've been trawling the interwebz and haven't seen anything.
 

Mahboi

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note to self: svgz images won't work.

I mean it looks stylish to see an 8 core Zen 5 beat Intel's best...but let's be honest nobody should care.
It's 50% more power draw on both the 6 and 8 cores. For a growth level of 10% at best.
 
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In2Photos

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The crazy thing is had AMD released the 9700X as a 105W chip and it had the additional 10% uplift, no one would have cared what the results were at 65W. But since it was released at 65W and reviewed that way, now all anyone will talk about is the cost of the performance increase, i.e. 40% more power for only 10% more performance.
 
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