Stay on topic. This is about raptor lake being defective.
Stay on topic. This is about raptor lake being defective.They are there to make everybody subconsciously hate AM5 and make them welcome AM6, even if it comes sooner than expected.
I would get a new replacement CPU
I just checked what limits I set for my new 13900KS and they are 5200/4200 MHz and 160W, I believe even the highest voltage spikes are below what you wrote. BTW I also got a 2x48GB RAM kit, which I bought for twice money I originally payed for my 2x16 GB kit, so that felt like a very good deal and it was totally wort it, I have more than enough RAM for at least 5 more years IMO.You're still gambling at any voltage higher than 1.3v and any clockspeed higher than 5.3 GHz, which cripples Raptor Lake. You still aren't getting the performance advertised on the tin.
well, that may be true. But now they perform way under what you paid for and AMD is much faster at everything now. (compared to yours)I just checked what limits I set for my new 13900KS and they are 5200/4200 MHz and 160W, I believe even the highest voltage spikes are below what you wrote. BTW I also got a 2x48GB RAM kit, which I bought for twice money I originally payed for my 2x16 GB kit, so that felt like a very good deal and it was totally wort it, I have more than enough RAM for at least 5 more years IMO.
There is nothing wrong with my PC now, Intel CPUs are just fine when you do not allow Intel to destroy them.
I just checked what limits I set for my new 13900KS and they are 5200/4200 MHz and 160W, I believe even the highest voltage spikes are below what you wrote. BTW I also got a 2x48GB RAM kit, which I bought for twice money I originally payed for my 2x16 GB kit, so that felt like a very good deal and it was totally wort it, I have more than enough RAM for at least 5 more years IMO.
There is nothing wrong with my PC now, Intel CPUs are just fine when you do not allow Intel to destroy them.
The 13900KS had to go on a healing journey, a spiritual transformation to finally understand the true meaning of computing is not related to winning benchmarks. We should see this moment as an opportunity to shift our focus as an industry from benchmarks to the benefits and impacts of the technology that we create.Seems pretty extreme considering the stock clocks of the 13900KS.
Undervolting is a bad practise, see this post:Seems pretty extreme considering the stock clocks of the 13900KS. ...
You are better off just running stock all-core clocks and finding your lowest stable undervolt
Isn't the microcode update just an undervolt?Undervolting is a bad practise, see this post:
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No. They say is prevents overvolting. It does nothing to excessive frequencies. Intel cannot do anything with these, because they would face the need to compensate consumers for lower performance. So they just patched the CPUs somehow to make them last a bit longer without really solving the problem.Isn't the microcode update just an undervolt?
PK1 on X claims to have discovered a loophole in Intel's RMA system — Intel didn't ask for proof of instability for the Raptor Lake RMA request. Thus, the Core i9-13900K owner requested an RMA on his perfectly functional Core i9 Raptor Lake CPU and received a full $599 refund for the chip, the full value of what the chip cost when it launched in 2022.
Another Intel customer, SomeOrdinary_Indian, posted the details of their Core i9-13900K RMA story to Reddit. The RMA was legitimate this time, as the CPU suffered instability issues. But in this instance, he won the "RMA lottery," receiving a more up-to-date Core i9-14900K from Intel instead of the previous-generation Core i9-13900K.
AFAIK microcode update tries to address overvolting, more exactly the high voltage requests the CPU makes when it expects transient fluctuations from increased loads. This is a compensation mechanism that goes above VID values and tries to make up for what the mobo power stage cannot supply "instantly". The compensation algo seemed to be... overcompensating.Isn't the microcode update just an undervolt?
Undervolting is a bad practise, see this post:
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I would compare Intel CPUs to workers rather than to sportsmen. Workers who are forced to work 15% quicker than their health allows and who will die on the job after some time.Reads a lot like "don't exercise hard...
I would compare Intel CPUs to professional athletes dropping dead during daily training due to doping by irresponsible trainers.I would compare Intel CPUs to workers rather than to sportsmen. Workers who are forced to work 15% quicker than their health allows and who will die on the job after some time.
Intel has said they are not affectedHave we heard if this problem affects the upcoming 15th gen?
Is Intel cooked for the foreseeable future?
Cooked is the correct wording, indeed xDHave we heard if this problem affects the upcoming 15th gen?
Is Intel cooked for the foreseeable future?
Given that they've had to nerf voltage on Raptor Lake twice (actually more than that given the profiles they tried releasing as a fix earlier), it seems like the first "fix" was a dud but they had to lay off for awhile until their new toy was close to being ready for review.Some of us did speculate that Intel might time things thus.