From the Reddit forums the folks were saying that Panther Lake is Cougar Cove/Darkmont.Which explains why Intel barely mentioned anything about the successor to Granite Rapids, since it's 2 years away according to that info.
You sure about the client names? You'd think Panther is Panther and Nova is Cougar.
Raichu had posted about Panther Lake using Cougar Cove almost 2 years ago. Anyway we have to wait until close to release to see what these Coves are. Tick or Tock.Which explains why Intel barely mentioned anything about the successor to Granite Rapids, since it's 2 years away according to that info.
You sure about the client names? You'd think Panther is Panther and Nova is Cougar.
Or could be a long-term victory if Turin ends up with as little gain as Zen5 has shown us thus far.Short lived victory until Turin eats their lunch. Good luck, Intel
Better ship out those servers ASAP!
Was Zen 5 "little gain" in these workloads? I seem to recall it did OK in Phoronix. Moreover Turin follows Intel and increases TDP and core count; unlike Granite Ridge.Turin ends up with as little gain as Zen5 has shown us thus far.
The days of AMD destroying Intel in DC are likely over.Short lived victory until Turin eats their lunch. Good luck, Intel
Better ship out those servers ASAP!
Also, its interesting that Phoronix generally shows the actual wattage used, but not this time. The 2 things Zen 5 has shown, is that they have the full avx-512 implementation, and lower wattage usage then Zen 4. If Turin has the same, it may kill this CPU totally. We will have to wait until ~Oct 10th to see.It's good news for Intel. Should help their DC margin.
But I'd like to see a comparison of the 6952P to the 9754.
Yes, Phoronix had +18% over a set of benchmarks for 9950x vs 7950x. But one would have to look at individual benchmarks to make a comparison with their 6980P benchmarks.Was Zen 5 "little gain" in these workloads? I seem to recall it did OK in Phoronix. Moreover Turin follows Intel and increases TDP and core count; unlike Granite Ridge.
Yes, Phoronix had +11% over a set of benchmarks for 9950x vs 7950x. But one would have to look at individual benchmarks to make a comparison with their 6980P benchmarks.
with a lower PPT of 200W instead of 232W. I hazard against disregarding Turin simply because gamers are disappointed with Granite Ridge.Phoronix said:When taking the geometric mean of all the raw performance results, the Ryzen 9 9950X came out to being 17.8% faster than the Ryzen 9 7950X
Welcome back Intel, the king of HPC.
The days of AMD destroying Intel in DC are likely over.
Turin vs GNR will be much more closely matched than the one sided rounds vs SPR and EMR.
Turin launch is in first half of October. IIRC, on 10th.
AMD always aims for the most cheapo solution. Intel has been way more adventurous and it seems it starts to pay off.OK, Intel did get competitive Xeon out. If that has performant unified 500MB L3 it also will pretty much stomp everything AMD has to offer with their chiplet implementation - AMD pretty much also has to change their direction towards more advanced packaging.
There's no core count advantage for Turin. It's 128 core vs 128 core for the P segment. It's the Turin Dense that gets 192 cores.Turin will primary get AMD back to a core count advantage temporarily, along with a slight node advantage probably.
It should be quite close. The gains are greater than 2x over EMR in many workloads.Short lived victory until Turin eats their lunch. Good luck, Intel
Better ship out those servers ASAP!
hardly, you have a fetish for something that doesn't matter , generally it costs lots of performance and gives very little to no benefit for the vast majority of software running on high core count servers.OK, Intel did get competitive Xeon out. If that has performant unified 500MB L3 it also will pretty much stomp everything AMD has to offer with their chiplet implementation - AMD pretty much also has to change their direction towards more advanced packaging.
I think the word you are looking for is cost effective. Intel's adventurous undertakings come at the cost of yields and higher fabrication expense, driving down their profits.AMD always aims for the most cheapo solution. Intel has been way more adventurous and it seems it starts to pay off.