Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Jaskalas

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Putin's dummy fell out of his pram again:
Trump officially and openly declares himself for Russia and Poland sharing a very long border.
Previously he would lie and obfuscate about the result he wanted.
For some reason, Make America Great Again stands for giving Russia and China everything, and every one, they want.

Trump says Ukraine is ‘demolished’ and dismisses its defense against Russia’s invasion
Trump argued Ukraine should have made concessions to Russian President Vladimir Putin in the months before Russia’s February 2022 attack, declaring that even “the worst deal would’ve been better than what we have now.”
 

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Trump officially and openly declares himself for Russia and Poland sharing a very long border.
Previously he would lie and obfuscate about the result he wanted.
For some reason, Make America Great Again stands for giving Russia and China everything, and every one, they want.

Trump says Ukraine is ‘demolished’ and dismisses its defense against Russia’s invasion
Trump argued Ukraine should have made concessions to Russian President Vladimir Putin in the months before Russia’s February 2022 attack, declaring that even “the worst deal would’ve been better than what we have now.”
Yea Trump doesn't seem to understand that the only concession Putin would accept is total absorption of Ukraine. Trump is not only an idiot but an asshole. My guess is the ny judge intends to give his ass some real jail time given his conduct during and after the trail. If the arse had just pleaded guilty and said i'm sorry it won't happen again he would have gotten a slap on the wrist.
 
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feralkid

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Trump says Ukraine is ‘demolished’ and dismisses its defense against Russia’s invasion
Trump argued Ukraine should have made concessions to Russian President Vladimir Putin in the months before Russia’s February 2022 attack, declaring that even “the worst deal would’ve been better than .what we have now”


Dear Mr. Trump,

"What we have now" is allies of democracy banding together against a common enemy; something you could never understand because you are Putin's butt-boy.
 

Dave_5k

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Yea Trump doesn't seem to understand that the only concession Putin would accept is total absorption of Ukraine. Trump is not only an idiot but an asshole. My guess is the ny judge intends to give his ass some real jail time given his conduct during and after the trail. If the arse had just pleaded guilty and said i'm sorry it won't happen again he would have gotten a slap on the wrist.
Oh, Putin would happily accept freezing status quo, as long as Ukraine was barred from NATO and sanctions fully lifted. He'd declare it a full victory.

And then just re-invade in 3-4 years or so to "save" Ukraine from the next little green men insurgency he sends over.
 

K1052

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As expected the administration has announced the commitments for both the $2.4B in remaining USAI funds and the $5.5B left in PDA authority to beat the fiscal authorization deadline. PDA drawdowns probably still coming every couple weeks and USAI stuff when the Pentagon gets around to awarding contracts (sometime before the sun expands and consumes the earth hopefully).

 

Jaskalas

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Europe, with members like these.... watch your back.

Hungary is salivating at the idea of mother Russia reclaiming them.
Their government openly declares they would not defend themselves. Hint. Hint.
Between Hungary and Slovakia, Ukraine is the only thing standing between Poland and Russians on three sides.

Balázs Orbán: Based on 1956, we probably wouldn't have done what Zelensky did, who took his country into a war of defense

Hungary would have given in to Russia, says Orbán’s top aide
 
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RnR_au

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Europe, with members like these.... watch your back.

Hungary is salivating at the idea of mother Russia reclaiming them.
Their government openly declares they would not defend themselves. Hint. Hint.
Between Hungary and Slovakia, Ukraine is the only thing standing between Poland and Russians on three sides.

Balázs Orbán: Based on 1956, we probably wouldn't have done what Zelensky did, who took his country into a war of defense

Hungary would have given in to Russia, says Orbán’s top aide
As if Hungary would leave the EU so easily. I don't think Russia would given Hungary so many billions every year.
 

Jaskalas

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Hungary uses its votes in the EU to fight FOR Russia against Ukraine. At every step of the way. Every. Single. Vote.
Orban is a MAGA favorite. Now Hungarian leaders directly state they'll let Russian troops take over Hungary.

But you think they care about EU money?
They do anything Putin tells them to do, and they intend to share a direct land border with Russia.
 

trenchfoot

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Talk about over the top shit:


So here we have the Republicans thinking that our nation's support for Ukraine's effort to keep one of our nation's worst enemies from removing Ukraine off the map and replacing it all with Putin and his oligarch buddies is a bad thing because it will make Trump look bad due to his man crush on Putin. This is insanity defined.

This along with the conflict many Republican legislators have because they are truly sympathetic with Ukraine's efforts to keep their independence, yet must kowtow to Trump's delicate misguided ego that compels him to support Putin's effort with his Three Day Special Military Operation in Ukraine.

Trump has turned millions of Americans into traitors that want his good friend Putin to defeat Ukraine where it would be in our nation's best interests to support an emerging democracy and possible fellow EU and NATO member's goal to stifle Putin's efforts toward bringing the west's democracies to heel at his feet.

Have Trump's supporters been so blinded by his lies that they would actually jeopardize the world's democracies efforts to keep Russia and China from dominating the world with their style of authoritarianism? It certainly seems that way. How can the world's most powerful nation be so bamboozled by a felonious con man that wants nothing more than pleasing himself at everyone else's expense? Well, I wouldn't ever believe it could be done yet here we are on the very cusp of it happening. It's all so incredulously bizarre.
 
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Jaskalas

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Have Trump's supporters been so blinded by his lies that they would actually jeopardize the world's democracies efforts to keep Russia and China from dominating the world with their style of authoritarianism?
Something something human nature.
  • Humans are inherently evil.
  • Despite that, our civilization once molded us into trying to do better.
  • MAGA has broken faith with our traditions, resetting us back to square one. The antithesis of western civilization.
  • To this end, Russia and China are their natural allies against Democracy.
Despite how absurd or shocking it may sound, you are witnessing this unfold before your very eyes. Trump has also spoken poorly of Taiwan. So this is not a unique situation, it is a pattern. Despite the desire to cut trade for "protectionism", that is just a racket to induce bribes. And it works best when there are no Democracies, only Authoritarian regimes to barter with in private.
 

trenchfoot

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Something something human nature.
  • Humans are inherently evil.
  • Despite that, our civilization once molded us into trying to do better.
  • MAGA has broken faith with our traditions, resetting us back to square one. The antithesis of western civilization.
  • To this end, Russia and China are their natural allies against Democracy.
Despite how absurd or shocking it may sound, you are witnessing this unfold before your very eyes. Trump has also spoken poorly of Taiwan. So this is not a unique situation, it is a pattern. Despite the desire to cut trade for "protectionism", that is just a racket to induce bribes. And it works best when there are no Democracies, only Authoritarian regimes to barter with in private.

This is where Trump's minions are living in an alternate reality where everything that critically matters to the world's democracies is either shielded from them or these shmucks just don't care. The one and only thing that matters to them is for their guy to win because "he tells it like it is, he's one tough hombre that can't be pushed around, he treats women like they're supposed to be treated, he protects the white supremacist patriots from being overrun by the rapist job stealing brown skins". You know, things that really matter to them but no one else does except their guy.

This is the level of sheer stupidity and willful ignorance that cannot be undone by reason alone, because there is no reasoning involved in Trump's supporters nationalist isolationist belief system, there is only blind allegiance to a hardened felon that sees things the way they were conditioned to not so much think, but be emotionally driven into feeling what's right and wrong. Trump has got them imprisoned in a living hell of his own primitive guttural fashioning and they're all convinced that this is what the world needs to be forcefully shaped into.

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Perknose

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Wired article on Ukraine's attempt to decentralize their energy grid.

"The Energy Act for Ukraine Foundation is equipping schools and hospitals with solar panels and energy storage systems to nullify Russian attacks on the country's power plants."

The scope of what they have lost to Russia:

Yuliana Onishchuk: Before the war, 55 percent of Ukraine’s generation was nuclear, and one of the biggest nuclear power plants, which supplied more than half of this nuclear power, was Zaporizhzhia. Now it is occupied.


Again, before the invasion, 35 percent of energy generation was from thermal power plants, which became a particular focus of Russia this year. They realized that this supply was exactly what they should attack, because you can hardly protect that 35 percent, and it is not as dangerous to target as nuclear.

We lost 80 percent of the wind power because almost all wind turbines are located in the south. Mostly, the south is occupied. Solar farms that are situated on the east and south were either attacked or stolen—they dismantled solar panels and stole them.

So, we lost a lot. Russia has destroyed 50 percent of our electricity-generation capacity.
 
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Brovane

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Yeah, it is suspected that this winter may be their hardest yet.

It might be because of Russia's invasion that Ukraine might eventually shift to a more decentralized grid structure which favors renewables.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-presidential-election-09-27-24/index.html

I can understand why Zelensky felt the need to meet with Trump, despite Trump's claims about him.

“It’s very important to share, to share all the plan, all our steps, how we can strengthen Ukraine,” Zelensky said in remarks next to Trump in New York. “And of course, we have to decide it now, because after November, we don’t know who is, only Americans decide who will be the president, but we understand that till November, we can’t stop Putin. We have to do it. We will try on the battlefield with our heroic soldiers. But we understand that after November, we have to decide, and we hope that the strengths of United States will be very strong, and we count on it. That’s why I decided to meet with both candidates.”
 
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K1052

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It might be because of Russia's invasion that Ukraine might eventually shift to a more decentralized grid structure which favors renewables.

They want to build some more nukes in the western part of the country but yea overall they are favoring a decentralized mix with renewables and smaller gas turbines. One issue is that district heating is a big thing in this part of the world so chopping those systems up into smaller, more resilient, networks is a bear.
 

Brovane

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They want to build some more nukes in the western part of the country but yea overall they are favoring a decentralized mix with renewables and smaller gas turbines. One issue is that district heating is a big thing in this part of the world so chopping those systems up into smaller, more resilient, networks is a bear.

I know this sounds horrible but sometimes it is easier to rebuild from rubble than try to rebuild a system already in place. Might be a good time to wipe clean from all that old Soviet Style centralized infrastructure.
 
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K1052

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I know this sounds horrible but sometimes it is easier to rebuild from rubble than try to rebuild a system already in place. Might be a good time to wipe clean from all that old Soviet Style centralized infrastructure.

Yeah I think ideally you get people to switch to heat pumps and start doing micro-grids.
 
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