That is pretty normal, yes?Any other Americans uncomfortable with the fact that Netanyahu approved the Nasrallah strike from US soil—without informing any of their US counterparts??? Is that just normal ally behavior??
Source: WSJ
Pretty amazing how people to just not even think about the apartheid state of the Palestinians, and the war crime filled war over the past year against the Palestinians. It's like they are just not even part of the equation.Or a wild idea. They could have done a ceasefire in Gaza instead. These attacks are all linked to Gaza... But cheer on.
There seems to be some confusion behind the premise of your questions.Any other Americans uncomfortable with the fact that Netanyahu approved the Nasrallah strike from US soil—without informing any of their US counterparts??? Is that just normal ally behavior??
Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad’s brother Maher may have been killed in Lebanon today from an Israeli strike. Maher al-Assad is a Syrian military officer and commander of the Syrian Army's elite 4th Armored Division. He is a war criminal gassing his own Syrian people.
Sadly, I think, in the long run, that this will turn out to be a Phyrric victory. 12 million Jews in Israel surrounded by hundreds of thousands of Islamists who will now, even more than before, be out for blood revenge. This hatred Israel has sown will not go away. You can't kill your way to peace.
Good riddance!Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad’s brother Maher may have been killed in Lebanon today from an Israeli strike. Maher al-Assad is a Syrian military officer and commander of the Syrian Army's elite 4th Armored Division. He is a war criminal gassing his own Syrian people.
I wonder how the US would react to some random country dropping a bomb in theirs then later saying, "it's OK, right? We killed a bad guy".... and that's way before we get to the scenario of Israel dropping a bomb that kills a multitude of civilians and trying the same excuse.There seems to be some confusion behind the premise of your questions.
Nasrallah was the leader of a terrorist org. NOT the leader of a country.
Did we ask anyone's permission when we killed Bin Laden?
Did we need to?
It's not a "random" bombing, Hezbollah has been bombing the shit out of northern Israel for the last year (More than 8000 rockets since October), including firing rockets into cities such as Haifa, Qiryat Shemona and Nahariyya. Note that Hezbollah started this whole thing when they started firing into Israel on October 8th. Lebanon either does not want, or cannot, take care of Hezbollah, and yes sadly innocents and civilians are paying a price for it.I wonder how the US would react to some random country dropping a bomb in theirs then later saying, "it's OK, right? We killed a bad guy".... and that's way before we get to the scenario of Israel dropping a bomb that kills a multitude of civilians and trying the same excuse.
These are your words: "wonder how the US would react to some random country dropping a bomb". This is not some "random" country just bombing Dahieh out of nowhere or whatever, and does not reflect the current situation at all in any manner.I didn't say it was.
These are your words: "wonder how the US would react to some random country dropping a bomb".
Is this target of yours, the head of a terrorist organization bombing Germany from US soil, in this story of yours?I was responding to Jaskalas's comment specifically on the point of "do we need to?" [ask permission before bombing someone else's country], and my implied counterpoint is that generally speaking, it would be more civilised to do that. If say Germany dropped a bomb to kill a target in America, it would cause a hell of a diplomatic stink, but there's probably a hundred countries at the very least in which it would be "OK" to a Western country to drop a bomb in, and not OK by the West if it was say Russia or China that did it.
This is such a disingenuous take. You're describing this as if there is some target that Israel just wanted to kill, and there's nothing else going on. Hezbollah has fired thousands of rockets into Israel FROM LEBANON since October 2023. Israel should not "ask permission" in-order to defend itself. This has been going on for almost a year. Lebanon cannot, or will not, take care of Hezbollah. It's not like there's some sort of effort from the Lebanese army. What would the US do if some terrorist organization from Mexico started bombing San Diego or San Antonio?Not that I'm defending Russia or China's foreign strategies for a minute, just pointing out a Western hypocrisy, such as the one that allows Israel to commit genocide, bomb whichever neighbour they like, etc.
Is this target of yours, the head of a terrorist organization bombing Germany from US soil, in this story of yours?
This is such a disingenuous take.
I understand completely. If there existed an organization with an arsenal of tens of thousands of rockets, which fired thousands of rockets from Mexico into the US, and the Mexican government and army did nothing about it, the US should just suck it up instead of randomly attacking targets of that organization in Mexico.Jesus, even when the context is supplied, it just escapes you doesn't it.
In your opinion. It's evident *at best* that they don't give a shit about >30k civilian casualties, the horror and misery that inevitably results, and *at worst* they are intentionally committing genocide out of a delusional sense of entitlement. You have the gall to accuse me of being disingenuous when you frame this as "defending themselves". I couldn't give a toss about arguing the debatable morality of one air strike when it's obvious that they don't have any sense of morality.
This the Reuters story on first Hezb attack in the conflict after Oct 7.I understand completely. If there existed an organization with an arsenal of tens of thousands of rockets, which fired thousands of rockets from Mexico into the US, and the Mexican government and army did nothing about it, the US should just suck it up instead of randomly attacking targets of that organization in Mexico.
Not going down this rabbit hole again, even by international law and the UN the Sheba Farms are not a part of Lebanon.This the Reuters story on first Hezb attack in the conflict after Oct 7.
Hezb attacked military outposts on the Sheba farms, its countrys own territory, which Israel occupies. It was basically a symbolic act in support of the Palestinian ppl. Despite Hezb "mostly" confining their attacks to military targets, they do respond in kind when Israel hits Leb civs. There is comparative chart posted earlier shows the overwhelming Israeli scale of attacks vs Hezbs attacks.
Israel basically escalated this out of proportion knowing that this would serve as a good excuse to take out Hezb when the time was right.
It was contested by Syria and Lebanon, but Syria deferred to the latter. Its a small technicality that should have no bearing on the MAIN FACT that Israel is illegally occupying land that is not theirs to begin with.Not going down this rabbit hole again, even by international law and the UN the Sheba Farms are not a part of Lebanon.
UN has already signed 20 years ago that Israel has completely withdrawn from Lebanon.
I like your way of thinking. Hezbollah attacked the Israeli military unprovoked first but it's Israel's fault that it escalated! 😏
That's not actually true. Here is an article from l'orient today from January 2024 which shows how Syria has repeatedly refused to ceed it officially or sign anything with Lebanon, and in private Syria actually claims that Shebaa Farms are actually Syrian.It was contested by Syria and Lebanon, but Syria deferred to the latter.
Damascus refuses to give legal force to its position by transmitting it in writing to the UN, arguing that this would first require a demarcation agreement with Beirut and that this was not possible as long as Israel occupies the Golan Heights.
“How can Syria demarcate its border in an occupied territory?” asked former Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem in 2006. “Should we send mappers there by parachute?”
Damascus also refuses the (rare) Lebanese attempts to negotiate a demarcation of the entire shared border.
Moreover, in private, Syrian officials repeat that the farms are Syrian and are an integral part of the occupied Golan Heights, which Israel must return in accordance with UN Council Resolution 242 (on the territories occupied in 1967).
I understand completely. If there existed an organization with an arsenal of tens of thousands of rockets, which fired thousands of rockets from Mexico into the US, and the Mexican government and army did nothing about it, the US should just suck it up instead of randomly attacking targets of that organization in Mexico.
I remember we discussed this months back. It goes back to contradictory pre-WW2 French maps that show it both as part of Lebanon and part of Syria. Syria itself has made contradictory statements about at various times, saying it was theirs but then saying its Lebanons. As you may well know Syrias Assad was close to Nasrallah and I dont think it was a point of contention between them. They fought on the same side in the Syrian civil war and pretty sure Assad would not mind Hezb trying to reclaim it from Israeli occupation to be later resolved between them when its returned.That's not actually true. Here is an article from l'orient today from January 2024 which shows how Syria has repeatedly refused to ceed it officially or sign anything with Lebanon, and in private Syria actually claims that Shebaa Farms are actually Syrian.
Yet, there is no signed treaty between Syria and Lebanon. Syria have ceded nothing. Assad would or wouldn't mind - it doesn't matter. Syria have never actually signed any document that gives Lebanon control of Shebaa Farms which are still theirs according to international law. Israel has completely left Lebanon according to international law and the UN.I remember we discussed this months back. It goes back to contradictory pre-WW2 French maps that show it both as part of Lebanon and part of Syria. Syria itself has made contradictory statements about at various times, saying it was theirs but then saying its Lebanons. As you may well know Syrias Assad was close to Nasrallah and I dont think it was a point of contention between them. They fought on the same side in the Syrian civil war and pretty sure Assad would not mind Hezb trying to reclaim it from Israeli occupation to be later resolved between them when its returned.
Golan heights are all occupied territory according to international law, I've never claimed otherwise. In general, though, Israel's relationship with Syria has been relatively stable for many years, and there has been mostly animosity between Israel and Hezbollah.The important point which we agree on is that its illegally occupied territory by Israel. And which they need to GTFO to ensure a more stable region and giving no one excuses for further conflict.
Again, because of an unprovoked attack by Hezbollah where they killed and took the bodies of two Israeli soldiers (at the time, thought to "captured"). In that initial attack they also fired rockets and Shlomi and Zarit, and injured five civilians. Nasrallah has famously stated that if he knew the consequences of that attack, he would have never done it. I can only assume, that if he knew what would happen this time, he wouldn't have joined in Hamas's attack as well. Alas, we will never know.As it stands its a flashpoint that has led to much conflict, incl the 2006 war that last took place between them.