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kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Absolutely, and it's well deserved.

"Running away like a bitch ass pussy," I believe is the technical term, and one of the few things Cadet Bonespurs does well. Up there skipping out on bills, losing obscene amounts of money, or defrauding investors.
 
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Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Absolutely, and it's well deserved.

"Running away like a bitch ass pussy," I believe is the technical term, and one of the few things Cadet Bonespurs does well. Up there skipping out on bills, losing obscene amounts of money, or defrauding investors.
"say something nice about your opponent"
"donald trump is good at a few things - dodging drafts, interviews, and bills; and running businesses into the ground"
 
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jdubs03

Golden Member
Oct 1, 2013
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Honestly I’m not surprised. He’s doing everything he can to delegitimize the media, with some help from the media themselves. This is just another step. I don’t see how that helps him with the whole undecided/independent crowd, but with how brain rotted these people are, it probably won’t hurt him. I hope it does, but I’m not optimistic.

I just hope Walz can hold his own tonight. The comparative performance of each will have more impact than Trump running scared from 60 Minutes.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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I think they meant in terms of the continued right wing backlash Harris would generate, like Obama.

I understood Indus just fine.

Same. It was painfully obvious in the context of the discussion that was going on at the time.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Congrats on trying to become the dumbest poster in the forum's history and that's some doing.. beating some0ne's mind.

There's dems I love.. aoc, biden, booty, sanders, warren, gretch etc.

There's no republicans I love, but if they don't have a national following.. they might be better than some corrupt local dems I have like Adams.

FFS I voted for Mike Bloomberg the republican.. he didn't turn out so bad did he?

all you do is believe profound lies from the GOP. Of course everyone thinks you will vote GOP.

Why do you believe these fucking lies about migrants ruining your life?
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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all you do is believe profound lies from the GOP. Of course everyone thinks you will vote GOP.

Why do you believe these fucking lies about migrants ruining your life?

I think I've said this many times.. I don't hate migrants.. I hate muslims because they are not left wingers.. they're actual right wingers once it comes time to vote. We should not be making them part of our base. Heck one dancer was stabbed in the neck by a muslim just because he was gay.


People seem to confuse and combine the two for whatever reason.. maybe because some muslims are migrants?



That said I have actual priorities that I want to achieve and defend..
1. healthcare/ cheaper prescription drugs/ lesser insurance premiums..
2. upholding democracy..
3. LGBT equality rights..
4. getting rid of the shopping cart mafia..
5. penalizing bad drivers who block traffic by doing stupid shit and cause accidents or drive on the sidewalks


It just so happens migrant rights aren't the highest on my list. If dems are getting hammered on migration (which they were before Trump said kill the immigration bill) I had no problem sacrificing the migrant issue to help dems get elected and stay in power.. because most of all I did not want a GOP trifecta which would totally dismantle everything I hold dear.



I don't watch fox/ newsmax/ oan other than to laugh at it, but I am perplexed why/ how they seem to be making gains in a very blue part of the country specifically because of migrants.

I'll still vote for Kamala/ Walz, Gillibrand and Meeks regardless but I do feel Adams is a clown and Hochul are not doing enough to address local issues and we can do a lot better locally.

I hope things are a bit more clearer to you now.. it's not me.. it's the neighborhood/ work/ environment. Some of their transformation is truly alarming!
 

NWRMidnight

Diamond Member
Jun 18, 2001
3,126
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I think they meant in terms of the continued right wing backlash Harris would generate, like Obama.

I understood Indus just fine.
Do you even understand why there was backlash during/from Obama's Presidency and after? Hint 1: It has less to do with his skin color, and more to do with: (the answer) Hint 2: : We see simular backlash today in another area of our society where woman are concerned (no it's not abortion). What do you think that is that took place during Obama's Presidency and today with women?
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
23,540
21,770
136
Same. It was painfully obvious in the context of the discussion that was going on at the time.
It doesn't matter. You should never use that language.

I'm really not sure how people don't realize how important the use of language is. It changes everything. One stupid slogan took the post George Floyd movement's momentum for police reform and destroyed it.
 

NWRMidnight

Diamond Member
Jun 18, 2001
3,126
2,713
136
Muse I think you're misunderstanding me..

What I'm complaining about is somehow Trump making some gains in the polls.. and it has to be stopped in its tracks now rather than be ignored.
Is Trump honestly making gains? or are the polls inaccurate to how people will be voting come Novemenber? I think there is a lot of the voting population who is just saying Trump to avoid being harrased, or violantly attacked by Trump supporters. I don't recall any other election where a mail man was attacked for delivering campaign support material, or a Sherif publically telling people to document democrat supporters.. Or government officials publically stating a certain catagory of citizens should be put to death. Heck, there have been some people on the right who have said all democrats should be killed.. All because they support a felon, who has already attempted a coup, and will most certainly do it again if he is given the chance. My point is we have a lot of people who fear openly admitting they will vote for Harris.
 

boxleitnerb

Platinum Member
Nov 1, 2011
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AUDIENCE QUESTION: Thank you so much for coming to Michigan. My name is Ashley and I work at the Chrysler plant. Like many auto workers, I am deeply concerned about the future of our industry. With many jobs being outsourced as we speak, what action will you take to ensure that our jobs stay in America so we can continue to build the best cars in the world here in Michigan?

DONALD TRUMP: So, pretty much as we’ve been saying, and what I want to do is I want to be able to — Look, your business — Years ago in this area, I was honored as the man of the year. It was maybe 20 years ago. Oh, and the fake news heard about it. They said, it never happened. It never happened. And I didn’t know who it was. It was a group that honored me as man of the year. The fakers back there, see the fake news. But they said — They said, oh — And they looked and, you know, they said it never happened. But I said, I swear to you, it happened.

It did happen. I was man of the year. And I came and I made a speech and I said, why do you allow them to take your car business away? Why do you allow it to happen? They’re taking your business away. And I didn’t know too much about it. All I know is they were taking your car industry away from you. They said it never happened.

And lo and behold, somebody said, I remember the event. And then we found out and we had everything. We got the awards. We had everything. It did happen. But I gave a speech, which at the time was pretty controversial. We can’t let them take your car business away. It’s such an important business.

And you know it’s an important business even in times of war where they switch over. And it was really something. And I looked at that speech from, I don’t know, it’s like 19, 20 years ago. And I could repeat it now without changing a word.

You cannot let foreign countries, and a lot of the times our worst foes are our so-called friends, okay? You know, our friends, the European Union takes tremendous advantage of us. As an example, they give us cars by the millions. We don’t have too many Chevrolets in the middle of European cities, okay? European Union is brutal. They don’t take our farm products for the most part. They don’t take a lot. But unlike Kamala, who always complains and doesn’t do anything, I keep saying, why don’t you do?

I saw Marsha the other day. Why doesn’t she, why didn’t she do it four years ago almost? And I say that, you know, she’s on the border today trying just to, what a day for the border. She goes to the border today, and they just announced just before she got up to speak that more than 13,000 murderers from jail, solitary confinement people in many cases, were released.

But I just say, let’s go back. So we can’t let them take our businesses. And we’re not gonna let them take our businesses. And you can control that so easily through good policy. Not her kind of policy, by the way. She changed her policy 15 times. No fracking. Oh, I like fracking. Defund the police. She wants to defund the police. Now, oh, I love the police all of a sudden. By the way, when anybody is into defunding the police even for a day during their career, they can no longer serve as President of the United States, I can tell you.

So we’re not gonna let them take our businesses. And really, a lot of that’s determined by our taxation policy. When China has to pay all that money, the people that liked me the best were the steel companies because I saved them. They were dumping China and others, but mostly China was dumping steel in here at levels that nobody had ever seen before.

And it was putting the steel companies out of business. I put a 50% and 100% tax on the dumping of steel and the steel companies thrived. I saved them, and you have to have the steel companies. So we’ll do the same thing.

And you don’t worry about it. Here’s what you have to do. I only ask you to do one thing, and then you can sleep beautifully all night long, go to a job you love, and get a lot of money at the end of the week. You know what the thing is? Vote for Trump. If you vote for Trump, everything’s gonna be perfect.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/live/it1J3V5...Y8IY7dE9xqQ_rj

Who in the right mind would vote for this idiot? Sounds like he had a stroke or something.would you trust that person with ruling over the most powerful country in the world armed with nuclear weapons full of responsibility for a wide range of issues?

The only thing Trump is capable of is narcissism, golfing, twittering, and complaining like a baby. Very un-American.

He belongs in a home for the elderly and not in any position of power or responsibility
 
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K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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When people talk about how Trump will be good for the economy it would be wise to show them that his only economic plans (deportations and tariffs) basically drop a bomb on said economy. Mass deportation and his tariffs plans implemented simultaneously will shove the US into a depression for no reason whatsoever other than that he is a racist moron.

 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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When people talk about how Trump will be good for the economy it would be wise to show them that his only economic plans (deportations and tariffs) basically drop a bomb on said economy. Mass deportation and his tariffs plans implemented simultaneously will shove the US into a depression for no reason whatsoever other than that he is a racist moron.


Sadly in the minds of many.. facts don't matter.

It's like giving people manuals to read with their car and they never read it and prefer to pay someone to fix it.

You can't fix stupid!
 
Dec 10, 2005
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When people talk about how Trump will be good for the economy it would be wise to show them that his only economic plans (deportations and tariffs) basically drop a bomb on said economy. Mass deportation and his tariffs plans implemented simultaneously will shove the US into a depression for no reason whatsoever other than that he is a racist moron.

We shouldn't downplay the power of racism. Exhibit A: Brexit
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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AUDIENCE QUESTION: Thank you so much for coming to Michigan. My name is Ashley and I work at the Chrysler plant. Like many auto workers, I am deeply concerned about the future of our industry. With many jobs being outsourced as we speak, what action will you take to ensure that our jobs stay in America so we can continue to build the best cars in the world here in Michigan?

DONALD TRUMP: So, pretty much as we’ve been saying, and what I want to do is I want to be able to — Look, your business — Years ago in this area, I was honored as the man of the year. It was maybe 20 years ago. Oh, and the fake news heard about it. They said, it never happened. It never happened. And I didn’t know who it was. It was a group that honored me as man of the year. The fakers back there, see the fake news. But they said — They said, oh — And they looked and, you know, they said it never happened. But I said, I swear to you, it happened.

It did happen. I was man of the year. And I came and I made a speech and I said, why do you allow them to take your car business away? Why do you allow it to happen? They’re taking your business away. And I didn’t know too much about it. All I know is they were taking your car industry away from you. They said it never happened.

And lo and behold, somebody said, I remember the event. And then we found out and we had everything. We got the awards. We had everything. It did happen. But I gave a speech, which at the time was pretty controversial. We can’t let them take your car business away. It’s such an important business.

And you know it’s an important business even in times of war where they switch over. And it was really something. And I looked at that speech from, I don’t know, it’s like 19, 20 years ago. And I could repeat it now without changing a word.

You cannot let foreign countries, and a lot of the times our worst foes are our so-called friends, okay? You know, our friends, the European Union takes tremendous advantage of us. As an example, they give us cars by the millions. We don’t have too many Chevrolets in the middle of European cities, okay? European Union is brutal. They don’t take our farm products for the most part. They don’t take a lot. But unlike Kamala, who always complains and doesn’t do anything, I keep saying, why don’t you do?

I saw Marsha the other day. Why doesn’t she, why didn’t she do it four years ago almost? And I say that, you know, she’s on the border today trying just to, what a day for the border. She goes to the border today, and they just announced just before she got up to speak that more than 13,000 murderers from jail, solitary confinement people in many cases, were released.

But I just say, let’s go back. So we can’t let them take our businesses. And we’re not gonna let them take our businesses. And you can control that so easily through good policy. Not her kind of policy, by the way. She changed her policy 15 times. No fracking. Oh, I like fracking. Defund the police. She wants to defund the police. Now, oh, I love the police all of a sudden. By the way, when anybody is into defunding the police even for a day during their career, they can no longer serve as President of the United States, I can tell you.

So we’re not gonna let them take our businesses. And really, a lot of that’s determined by our taxation policy. When China has to pay all that money, the people that liked me the best were the steel companies because I saved them. They were dumping China and others, but mostly China was dumping steel in here at levels that nobody had ever seen before.

And it was putting the steel companies out of business. I put a 50% and 100% tax on the dumping of steel and the steel companies thrived. I saved them, and you have to have the steel companies. So we’ll do the same thing.

And you don’t worry about it. Here’s what you have to do. I only ask you to do one thing, and then you can sleep beautifully all night long, go to a job you love, and get a lot of money at the end of the week. You know what the thing is? Vote for Trump. If you vote for Trump, everything’s gonna be perfect.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/live/it1J3V5...Y8IY7dE9xqQ_rj

Who in the right mind would vote for this idiot? Sounds like he had a stroke or something.would you trust that person with ruling over the most powerful country in the world armed with nuclear weapons full of responsibility for a wide range of issues?

The only thing Trump is capable of is narcissism, golfing, twittering, and complaining like a baby. Very un-American.

He belongs in a home for the elderly and not in any position of power or responsibility
If you had an elderly friend or relative who said something like this you would want them to go to the doctor.

Imagine if Biden had said something like this - we would have a weeks long news cycle about his mental acuity.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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If you had an elderly friend or relative who said something like this you would want them to go to the doctor.

Imagine if Biden had said something like this - we would have a weeks long news cycle about his mental acuity.

The worst is how the press sane washes that into something like: President Trump discusses his economic plans for the auto industry to reassure anxious swing voters who are not sold on Kamala Harris.

Their failure (intentional or not) to effectively inform readers of the fact that he is a huge crank that you should not trust is really severe.
 
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