News Hurricane Milton

MtnMan

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In the midst of people suffering, losing homes, property, and lives, and complete disruption to their lives, the pond scum of our society will surface spreading misinformation and flat out lies, for the simple fact they are miserable assholes.

Why are threads about the aftermath of a natural disaster nothing more than a dog whistles, and I suspect this thread will suffer the same fate, as the Helene thread I asked the mods to lock. I will not give these lower life forms and mentally ill assholes the fucking time of day.

100% of the people I have interacted with, face to face here have been pleasant, though it was apparent they were desperate for assistance. Witness supplies at an unofficial distribution point actually grow. People with needs, took what they needed, but only that, while others were bringing stuff, and taking nothing. But there is a small minority getting their kicks being complete assholes.

And these same keyboard assholes that will be attracted like flies to shit, some get their sick kicks spreading lies and just being their true selves.

Stay safe, Florida, and ignore the pond scum which I guarantee will float to the surface.

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Charmonium

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And remember, it's not just the death a destruction from a disaster like this. It's the fact the fewer and fewer people can afford the disaster insurance they need in order rebuild. And the more of these events. where records are just shattered, the few insurers have any interest in writing new policies to begin with.

Can you even image how f'ed up that is? You dream of retiring someplace like FL, blow almost all of your retirement savings on building your retirement haven and in a few hours, all you have at the end is piles of debris and no where near enough money left to do much of anything about it.

I was watching the news yesterday an the meteorologist actually teared-up when he started talking how quickly and by how much the storm had intensified. These are people who understand what numbers like millibars of pressure really mean in terms of the damage and general carnage that they know to a certainty the result.
 
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Charmonium

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One last thing, before you donate to any organization that is promising to help, make sure to check it on Charity Navigator. You can also try Charity Watch and Candid (formerly Guidestar).

Don't feed the spammers, con artists and just plain criminals.
 
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The Tallahassee newspaper has already said that all our hotel rooms are booked for the next few days at least.
 

brianmanahan

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my cousin has the misfortune of going to a conference down in florida this week, then being unable to get a flight back until at least thursday/friday

she's crossing her fingers and taking her chance that the hotel will be ok, but if i was her i'd rent a car and get the heck out of there
 

jpiniero

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The Tallahassee newspaper has already said that all our hotel rooms are booked for the next few days at least.

Going all the way to Tallahassee seems a bit much but I guess you could argue that this is an unusual enough pattern that it could change direction and fast.

I was watching the news yesterday an the meteorologist actually teared-up when he started talking how quickly and by how much the storm had intensified. These are people who understand what numbers like millibars of pressure really mean in terms of the damage and general carnage that they know to a certainty the result.

They always hype up storms for ratings. Sometimes they end up being right. Most of the time they end up being wrong.

Maybe this will be the end of building new wood houses in Florida. Which wouldn't be a bad thing.
 

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We prepped best we can. Oak tree was trimmed heavily a couple months back. Have hurricane windows. But still have hardware installed and put up pre-cut and drilled boards over the windows that you secure with wingnuts. Provides extra acoustic dampening for the howling wind noise so you can sleep too. Only have a portable generator. Got 20 gal of gas Saturday night and fuel treated it. Bought a bunch of water while we were there; my spidey sense was tingling hence we beat all the madness.

My house is 44 years old, but it has hurricane clips and straps in the roof. Had 130 mph shingles used with the new roof installed 3yrs ago. It's also block and rebar not wood frame. We roll the cars against the garage door just enough so it won't flex if the wind is at a certain angle. Living in hurricane alley we have all the other things you'd expect. Even have life straws. 55 gal rain catch barrel for if we need to flush toilets and that kind of stuff. Portable A/C, charcoal and gas grills, everything you need when the power is out. I will grind a bunch of coffee in the morning so I can do French press.

Live on the Space coast so not facing the obliteration west coast is. But tornadoes and flooding are always on the menu. Along with power outages.
 

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Now that's bougie hurricane prep - making sure you grind coffee so that, even if the world around you is destroyed, you will have French press coffee. Just kidding, but I did laugh when I read it. 👍
 

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Now that's bougie hurricane prep - making sure you grind coffee so that, even if the world around you is destroyed, you will have French press coffee. Just kidding, but I did laugh when I read it. 👍

If you opened my emergency supplies right on top you will find a large amount of instant coffee packets. As I enjoy not being psychically murdered by my husband in the throws of caffeine withdrawal during a crisis it's a necessary precaution.
 

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Now that's bougie hurricane prep - making sure you grind coffee so that, even if the world around you is destroyed, you will have French press coffee. Just kidding, but I did laugh when I read it. 👍
Never underestimate a good cup of coffee.

After Helene left us trapped by down trees, and no power, I got out my old (probably 50+ years old) Coleman 413G camp stove. Had a can of old fuel for it, stored in an outside cabinet. The can is rusty on the outside, but fuel was fine. Revived the leather washer in the pump with a little oil, and it fired up with a nice blue flame. It got a lot of use till we got power back after 9 days.

Daughter has a newer Coleman that uses the propane cylinders, and she's complaining about how quickly it uses tanks. I used less than a pint of fuel.

Once I acquired a generator, a full pot into a thermal carafe was a luxury.
 

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I will use up all my charcoal first if the power is out for very long. I can do a full meal, hot water for beverages, bake some potatoes and sweet potatoes, and hard boil eggs with the same chimney starter worth of charcoal. That'd use up a lot of propane to do the same thing. Sorry Hank Hill but you are wrong!
 
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Gator-nado in the Everglades.


We move into the watch zone in a few hours. I remember there was tornado during Andrew that was so strong it twisted a metal i-beam.
 

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Water spout going over the bridge caught live


I was watching this same cam during Helene; place can't catch a break. They were using a bulldozer to scrape debris off the road so the vehicles could get through.
 

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Water spout going over the bridge caught live


I was watching this same cam during Helene; place can't catch a break. They were using a bulldozer to scrape debris off the road so the vehicles could get through.
Money shot seems to be ~3:10, quite a difference between the 2 minute mark and that.
 

MrSquished

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Luckily Milton has gone down to a category 3 now. It's at least something. I hope it doesn't strengthen again, not sure if that is possible so close to shore.
 
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Luckily Milton has gone down to a category 3 now. It's at least something. I hope it doesn't strengthen again, not sure if that is possible so close to shore.

Category really doesn’t matter at this point. It was expected to make a low-end cat 3 landfall.

Storm surge is what this is all about. And apparently horrific tornados…
 
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Charmonium

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If you're near shore, what I've been hearing is that high 3, low 4 - there's not a lot of diff in terms of damage.

And that f'ing storm surge - Helene was bad enough but they weren't saying 'write your name on your body in sharpie.'

I know people that moved to FL so I don't say this lightly, but it's not going to get any better.

If I hadn't lived thru Sandy, I probably wouldn't be as empathetic. And I'm at least 10-20 miles inland. So by the the time it got here, it wasn't wind so much as just f'ing buckets and barrels of rain.

This house is built into a hilside with the garage on the side that partially above ground. The basement is further back into the hill and is about 4/5ths under ground.

There was so much rain that I had a small rivulet flowing from the basement, thru the basement door and then thru the garage. I really should've shot some video.
 
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My parents place is in Sarasota.......they are praying for the best but yeah....thoughts and prayers only go so far. Thankfully they are in Europe right now so at least they are safe and out of harms way. Even if it takes time material property can be replaced but family can't.
 

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retracted, I need a stiff drink.
 
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3.2 million in FL without power. Lots of locations had wind in excess of 100 mph and rainfall between 10" and 18". Only deaths I've seen reported so far are 4 from a tornado. More than 38 tornados were reported during the time the hurricane was over land. Not much out yet about damages.
 
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