Question Zen 5 General questions

phillyman36 · Oct 8, 2024

Hello everyone. I have general question on the Am5 (9000) platform. Looking at reviews and sort of an information gathering for a new build. What can I expect on a brand new build on this platform. In different reviews i see things like
High core to core latency
Needing to use Process Lasso
Long boot times.
Issues with certain Windows 11 Builds

For someone who just uses the pc to
Play some games here and there. (1440p resolution Fortnite, Call of Duty more fps games)
Converting videos and burning dvds for friends(nothing professional just Handbrake and ConvertXtodvd)
surfing the web, youtube etc etc
I dont do any benchmarking

If i just make sure the bios and drivers are updated and just set the Expo memory is there anything extra I would need to do to make sure the system runs smoothly? What are the do and don'ts I should know about and possible issues? Any responses and help is greatly appreciated. Looking at the 9900x or even maybe the 9950x from Newegg with a cpu trade in to make it cheaper.

CakeMonster · Oct 8, 2024

If you're considering the 12c and 16c parts and not X3D, you might want to at least consider 7950X for a good price/perf alternative. Yes, there are real improvements to the architecture with Z5, but those so far impact mostly more professional workloads rather than the usage you describe. A 7950X will also avoid all the core parking and thread priority issues.

To answer your actual question, if you have a fresh Windows install, and you then install the latest AMD chipset drivers, you should be good. Else you might have to do really deep driver cleanups to get the core parking working as AMD intended.

cellarnoise · Oct 9, 2024

I would not bother with the 12 or 16 core versions in your case.

I'd likely wait for the 8 core 3dx versions for you gaming. Looks to be available in a few weeks.

The current am5 8 core parts are fast enough and the new 3dx 8 core versions will be great for gaming and just about anything else. Unless you really need more cores for what you have said are only a very occasional use case?

All these past few generations of both intel and amd processors for home use are really very fast... For home desktop use, unless you are doing heavy lifting cpu stuff all the time.

I'm someone that could still probalby use only 640kb of RAM and be happy, to be honest...

Lil'John · Oct 9, 2024

cellarnoise said:
I would not bother with the 12 or 16 core versions in your case.

I'd likely wait for the 8 core 3dx versions for you gaming. Looks to be available in a few weeks.

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Out of curiosity, where have you seen update on when 3dx being available?

A couple weeks ago, I was getting ready to pull trigger on Ryzen 7 7800X3D when the price just went through the roof.

lopri · Oct 16, 2024

Boot times is greatly reduced. Once stable memory configuration is found I enable memory power down and memory context restore, and boot time is like 15 secs. It used to be 1 min.

Tech Junky · Oct 16, 2024

In general 9xxx isn't going to be a huge boost compared to 7xxx. On the mobo side it's only adding 2*40gbps usb ports as mandatory.

The whole RAM boot delay thing was more of a fluke for DDR5 training until they fixed the UEFI after launch on both sides. By the time I built a system with DDR5 it didn't behave any differently than DDR4 in terms of boot times.

I run Linux though so, can't speak to W's issues with AMD.

Media conversion... I do this with video files to MP4 and use a cheap A380 GPU to speed things up since QSV is the most efficient route and that's Intel only. With some files I can get close to 1200 FPS in HB. After tweaking all of the stuff needed for QSV/HB it's really efficient in processing files. Typical OTA recordings can be processed in under 2 minutes.

lopri · Oct 16, 2024

Your sig shows you are on 13700K? There isn't really anything to upgrade to I'm afraid. 13700K is still a top dog.

phillyman36 · Oct 16, 2024

lopri said:
Your sig shows you are on 13700K? There isn't really anything to upgrade to I'm afraid. 13700K is still a top dog.

I have a family member who need a pc(badly). Donating some of my rig to them and grabbing something new for myself.

Markfw · Oct 16, 2024

phillyman36 said:
I have a family member who need a pc(badly). Donating some of my rig to them and grabbing something new for myself.

AMD is a great choice ! Raptor lake's are from the factory defective !

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