Question Help with a new pc build under $1,000

Dfish21 · Oct 8, 2024

I’m looking to build a pc for the first time in over ten years and everything is new to me again. If someone could look this over and tell me if it’s a good setup, I would appreciate it.

CPU- AMD ryzen 5 5600x (stock cooler)
Motherboard- ASUS prime b550m w/wifi
Ram- silicon power 16gb ddr4
Storage- silicon power 2tb ud90
Gpu- gigabyte Radeon rx 7700 xt
Psu- Corsair rm750e
Case- montech air 903 max

My old pc has an EVGA supernova 850 b2. I assume I shouldn’t reuse that given its age, but I figured I’d ask in case I can save $100.

The total comes out to right around $930. Any suggestions as to what can be optimized or if anything is over the top here?

In2Photos · Oct 8, 2024

I don't see anything outrageous. What speed and CL is the RAM? I'd probably try to go with 32gb of RAM if you can squeeze it and maybe a better tier PSU. You could use your old PSU but I would consider upgrading it at some point soon down the road just to be safe.

Did you use PC Part Picker to put your build together?

In2Photos · Oct 8, 2024

Another option on parts.

Dfish21 · Oct 8, 2024

In2Photos said:
I don't see anything outrageous. What speed and CL is the RAM? I'd probably try to go with 32gb of RAM if you can squeeze it and maybe a better tier PSU. You could use your old PSU but I would consider upgrading it at some point soon down the road just to be safe.

Did you use PC Part Picker to put your build together?

I did use pc parts picker and then researched the individual parts to be safe. The speed of the ram is 3200mhz and cl16. I did look the corsair rm750 up and I believe it said it was in a or b tier, would this not be considered ok for the build? I appreciate the help! I should also mention that I have a newer 1080p monitor and don’t plan on upgrading that until I eventually build my son’s first pc. He only cares about Minecraft atm so his build will be less expensive.

In2Photos · Oct 9, 2024

Dfish21 said:
I did use pc parts picker and then researched the individual parts to be safe. The speed of the ram is 3200mhz and cl16. I did look the corsair rm750 up and I believe it said it was in a or b tier, would this not be considered ok for the build? I appreciate the help! I should also mention that I have a newer 1080p monitor and don’t plan on upgrading that until I eventually build my son’s first pc. He only cares about Minecraft atm so his build will be less expensive.

You're right the RM750e is tier A. For some reason I thought it was a tier B.

Even though you only plan to play 1080p getting the best system for the money right now means you don't have to change any parts if you go 1440p or pick up any newer games that are more demanding. The system in the video uses AM5 which is the current platform over AM4 and also has a GPU one step up from the one in your list, all for roughly the same price. It does use a CPU from AliExpress and an open box motherboard as well as only 1tb of storage but has 32gb of RAM and probably better overall value. But either build would be good.

Dfish21 · Oct 9, 2024

In2Photos said:
You're right the RM750e is tier A. For some reason I thought it was a tier B.

Even though you only plan to play 1080p getting the best system for the money right now means you don't have to change any parts if you go 1440p or pick up any newer games that are more demanding. The system in the video uses AM5 which is the current platform over AM4 and also has a GPU one step up from the one in your list, all for roughly the same price. It does use a CPU from AliExpress and an open box motherboard as well as only 1tb of storage but has 32gb of RAM and probably better overall value. But either build would be good.

I watched the video, and honestly, I’ve been wondering about making small concessions to jump to the newest hardware anyways. It doesn’t seem worth it, to go a generation behind just, to save around $100 and I can live with 1tb instead of 2. Can I still stick with the same gpu or is it not worth the $70-$80 in savings? I’m not trying to seem like a miser, but I also need to buy a new desk and peripherals as well, so I’m just trying to save where I can.
I’ve just been looking at the huge jump I’ll be making from my 10 year old rig.

Again I do appreciate you taking time to help!

In2Photos · Oct 9, 2024

Dfish21 said:
I watched the video, and honestly, I’ve been wondering about making small concessions to jump to the newest hardware anyways. It doesn’t seem worth it, to go a generation behind just, to save around $100 and I can live with 1tb instead of 2. Can I still stick with the same gpu or is it not worth the $70-$80 in savings? I’m not trying to seem like a miser, but I also need to buy a new desk and peripherals as well, so I’m just trying to save where I can.
I’ve just been looking at the huge jump I’ll be making from my 10 year old rig.

Again I do appreciate you taking time to help!

I was in the same boat as you. My previous build was from 2009 except for some upgrades along the way like more RAM, a newer GPU and SSD. I didn't have a budget per se when I built mine last year and I wanted a certain aesthetic that cost me extra. The difference in performance is huge compared to the older PC.

The 7800XT is about 10-20% faster than the 7700XT, but also has more vram, 16gb vs 12gb, so it can hold up better with more demanding titles in the future or with higher resolution. You also may be able to find a 6800 or 6800 XT for a decent deal.

Again I don't think either choice is bad. If you have a budget to stick to buy the best you can in that price range.

7500f w/7800 XT, 2TB, 32GB RAM for $1000.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pvmcQP

In2Photos · Oct 9, 2024

Also, if you live in an area with a Microcenter you might be able to find some bundle deals or open box deals on hardware.

mikeymikec · Oct 9, 2024

If the 5600x is anything like the 7600, I'd consider the stock cooler to be woefully inadequate (CPU saturation with the stock cooler equals sky-high temps within a matter of seconds).

While recent generations of non-low-end x86 CPUs are designed to turbo as much as they can and only reign in the turbo frequencies if they're nearing the thermal ceiling so therefore it's logical to expect that any cooling solution is going to get well-tested, I would guess that a 5600x with the stock cooler would be allowed to reach maybe 75% of its full potential while under a full sustained load.

Here's a thread talking about the 5600 (non X) and the wraith stealth cooler not being enough:

Ryzen 5 5600 with +90°C temperatures

Hi, im here searching for some help to solve this problem. My Ryzen 5 5600 with stock fan is getting +90°C while gaming or stressing de cpu with programs like CPU-Z. If i use the browser or common programs the temp is 50-60 °C. Please tell me if this is normal, considering that this is the first...

community.amd.com

IMO if you're working within a tight budget you can probably grin and bear the stock cooler for a bit, you'll probably notice the CPU fan audibly reving up with the slightest provocation (e.g. web browsing), but I think even a small step up to a budget tower-style cooler (e.g. Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 Slim, but preferably a PR2) would result in significantly reduced noise levels and a performance improvement.

Btw I assume you're gaming? The 7700X strongly implies it but I thought I'd check!

I have misgivings about limiting yourself to the older generation and not making the most of the older generation (ie. an X3D CPU), but a budget is a budget I guess. I suppose you might be able to pick up a second-hand X3D AM4 CPU cheaply in the years to come.

Dfish21 · Oct 9, 2024

In2Photos said:
Also, if you live in an area with a Microcenter you might be able to find some bundle deals or open box deals on hardware.

Unfortunately, there’s basically no computer stores in my city. All that’s left is repair shops that might sell some parts.

Dfish21 · Oct 9, 2024

In2Photos said:
I was in the same boat as you. My previous build was from 2009 except for some upgrades along the way like more RAM, a newer GPU and SSD. I didn't have a budget per se when I built mine last year and I wanted a certain aesthetic that cost me extra. The difference in performance is huge compared to the older PC.

The 7800XT is about 10-20% faster than the 7700XT, but also has more vram, 16gb vs 12gb, so it can hold up better with more demanding titles in the future or with higher resolution. You also may be able to find a 6800 or 6800 XT for a decent deal.

Again I don't think either choice is bad. If you have a budget to stick to buy the best you can in that price range.

7500f w/7800 XT, 2TB, 32GB RAM for $1000.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pvmcQP

This is super helpful thank you! It’s still going to be a couple months before I get it all built and setup, but I’ll be sure to come back here and post the final setup. My furniture is all cherry wood, so I’m thinking a black/soft orange build to fit.

In2Photos · Oct 9, 2024

For gaming the stock cooler will work ok, but I do agree even a $20 cooler like the ID Cooling SE-214 would be better. Hardware Canucks found very little performance difference in different coolers for the 7600X in gaming.

Dfish21 · Oct 9, 2024

In2Photos said:
I was in the same boat as you. My previous build was from 2009 except for some upgrades along the way like more RAM, a newer GPU and SSD. I didn't have a budget per se when I built mine last year and I wanted a certain aesthetic that cost me extra. The difference in performance is huge compared to the older PC.

The 7800XT is about 10-20% faster than the 7700XT, but also has more vram, 16gb vs 12gb, so it can hold up better with more demanding titles in the future or with higher resolution. You also may be able to find a 6800 or 6800 XT for a decent deal.

Again I don't think either choice is bad. If you have a budget to stick to buy the best you can in that price range.

7500f w/7800 XT, 2TB, 32GB RAM for $1000.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pvmcQP

This is super helpful thank you! It’s still going to be a couple months before I get it all built and setup, but I’ll be sure to come back here and post the final setup. My furniture is all cherry wood, so I’m thinking a black/soft orange build to fit

Dfish21 · Oct 9, 2024

mikeymikec said:
If the 5600x is anything like the 7600, I'd consider the stock cooler to be woefully inadequate (CPU saturation with the stock cooler equals sky-high temps within a matter of seconds).

While recent generations of non-low-end x86 CPUs are designed to turbo as much as they can and only reign in the turbo frequencies if they're nearing the thermal ceiling so therefore it's logical to expect that any cooling solution is going to get well-tested, I would guess that a 5600x with the stock cooler would be allowed to reach maybe 75% of its full potential while under a full sustained load.

Here's a thread talking about the 5600 (non X) and the wraith stealth cooler not being enough:

Ryzen 5 5600 with +90°C temperatures

Hi, im here searching for some help to solve this problem. My Ryzen 5 5600 with stock fan is getting +90°C while gaming or stressing de cpu with programs like CPU-Z. If i use the browser or common programs the temp is 50-60 °C. Please tell me if this is normal, considering that this is the first...

community.amd.com

IMO if you're working within a tight budget you can probably grin and bear the stock cooler for a bit, you'll probably notice the CPU fan audibly reving up with the slightest provocation (e.g. web browsing), but I think even a small step up to a budget tower-style cooler (e.g. Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 Slim, but preferably a PR2) would result in significantly reduced noise levels and a performance improvement.

Btw I assume you're gaming? The 7700X strongly implies it but I thought I'd check!

I have misgivings about limiting yourself to the older generation and not making the most of the older generation (ie. an X3D CPU), but a budget is a budget I guess. I suppose you might be able to pick up a second-hand X3D AM4 CPU cheaply in the years to come.

I am definitely planning to game, I’ve definitely been thinking whether going with the older generation is really worth it when the difference will only be around $100-$200. The budget is flexible, honestly mostly limited by my inability to buy things for myself. At the end of the day if the stock coolers aren’t a good idea I’d rather play it safe, and spend a bit more money for more longevity. You guys have been great, thank you so much!

manly · Oct 9, 2024

Welcome to the forums.
Add $120 to your budget and build something around AM5. Is your timetable more like right away, or Black Friday? BF should have some better deals (i.e. Newegg bundle).

If you want to buy the PSU now, the excellent RM750x SHIFT is on sale (I see it's on In2Photos's build list):

750W Corsair RM750x Shift 80+ Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $80 + Free Shipping

Newegg [newegg.com] has 750W Corsair RM750x Shift 80+ Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

slickdeals.net

In2Photos · Oct 9, 2024

Dfish21 said:
This is super helpful thank you! It’s still going to be a couple months before I get it all built and setup, but I’ll be sure to come back here and post the final setup. My furniture is all cherry wood, so I’m thinking a black/soft orange build to fit

Lian Li just came out with a new case that's getting great reviews and I think it's $79 and includes fans. The lancool 207.

Dfish21 · Oct 9, 2024

manly said:
Welcome to the forums.
Add $120 to your budget and build something around AM5. Is your timetable more like right away, or Black Friday? BF should have some better deals (i.e. Newegg bundle).

If you want to buy the PSU now, the excellent RM750x SHIFT is on sale (I see it's on In2Photos's build list):

750W Corsair RM750x Shift 80+ Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $80 + Free Shipping

Newegg [newegg.com] has 750W Corsair RM750x Shift 80+ Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

slickdeals.net

I was planning to wait a couple months before I started the build actually. I completely forgot about Black Friday. I figured I’d keep an eye out for the time being and buy single components if I could find sales on them.

manly · Oct 9, 2024

Dfish21 said:
I was planning to wait a couple months before I started the build actually. I completely forgot about Black Friday. I figured I’d keep an eye out for the time being and buy single components if I could find sales on them.

One thing I'll say about the Newegg DIY bundles is they don't seem to last long. Sometimes a few hours and they're out of stock.

If past history holds up, Black Friday will indeed be a good time to place your orders. You can buy the RM750x PSU now if you'd like, but you run the small risk that if it's DOA you won't know until 2 months later and will have to RMA the thing with Corsair. So usually it's advisable to buy everything within about a 2 week window to get all your ducks lined up in a row for the build. And you can easily return stuff to Amazon/Newegg if necessary.

manly · Oct 9, 2024

At a glance, this is not a bad deal although you'll want to buy a 2TB SSD for large games.

https://slickdeals.net/f/17813043-amd-ryzen-5-5600x-gigabyte-b550m-k-t-force-vulcan-z-16gb-ddr4-3200-512gb-ssd-198

Reading the thread, you have to apply a coupon code and they're tossing in a second RAM kit too.

We think you have some superior options if you're willing to stretch your budget to $1100 + tax.
But if someone wants a cheap 1080p gaming build for well under $1000 grand total, this bundle looks good to me.

Dfish21 · Oct 12, 2024

manly said:
At a glance, this is not a bad deal although you'll want to buy a 2TB SSD for large games.

https://slickdeals.net/f/17813043-amd-ryzen-5-5600x-gigabyte-b550m-k-t-force-vulcan-z-16gb-ddr4-3200-512gb-ssd-198

Reading the thread, you have to apply a coupon code and they're tossing in a second RAM kit too.

We think you have some superior options if you're willing to stretch your budget to $1100 + tax.
But if someone wants a cheap 1080p gaming build for well under $1000 grand total, this bundle looks good to me.

I’m definitely just going to go for current gen and up the budget, I’ll also try to shop around for deals on single components and see if I can’t get anything used as well

Tech Junky · Oct 12, 2024

Dfish21 said:
EVGA supernova 850

I use these or similar EVGA options on my builds and they last forever it seems.

As for the other parts you can find deals on Amazon returns and chop quite a bit off the price. I picked up a PG Lightning for $160 last year and they've been holding steady ~$250. AM5 prices have come down as well and DDR5 is about the same as DDR4 before it launched. 32GB ~$80.

Anyway... minus a GPU you can do a full build case/psu/etc fairly cheap ~$800 which leaves some money for a fancy GPU for gaming. Personally I use my setup for media though and put in a cheap A380 for media conversions since QSV is more efficient.

b-mac · Oct 14, 2024

This what I would go with for just under $1000. I wouldn't reuse the EVGA power supply since it seems like they are winding down business operations.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JTGJCd

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($134.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($97.19 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($45.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.27 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $995.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-14 11:56 EDT-0400

Tech Junky · Oct 14, 2024

b-mac said:
EVGA power supply since it seems like they are winding down business operations.

The only thing they're stopping is GPU since they don't have a big enough margin. Their PSU side is rock solid with some of the longest warranties out there.

As to the PCP build.... KF might save $20 but, the iGPU can be handy if the dGPU decides to take a dive for some reason.

Also, going with a mATX board might not be the best option if @Dfish21 needs some extra slots down the road.

And, going DDR5 now makes things easier to port things over on the next upgrade cycle.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pyV4Fs -- no case / PSU but DDR5 6000 - $948.85

Personally though I would be opting for AMD as Intel is falling behind with this build by ~3 generations and the longevity isn't there as any CPU upgrade will require a complete rebuild again as Intel keeps changing the number of pins more frequently. As they're about to push out Arrow Lake in the near future as well which means a rebuild and who knows what they'll do on the next release.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vxR4Fs - swap to AMD 8600G / mobo - $994.59

So, not hunting down discounts and apples to apples ~$50 difference and 2-3 years longer support for upgrading the CPU if desired and no hybrid cores to deal with.

Ken g6 · Oct 14, 2024

Tech Junky said:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vxR4Fs - swap to AMD 8600G / mobo - $994.59

I don't see the need for an expensive motherboard these days. A PCIe 4.0 interface is fast enough for anything, generally. So I used a cheaper motherboard and upped storage to 2GB again. I also dropped the CAS latency on the RAM to 30 for an extra $5.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 8600G 4.3 GHz 6-Core Processor ($169.74 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock B650M PG Lightning Wifi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($84.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($112.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $972.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-14 16:15 EDT-0400

Dfish21 · Oct 15, 2024

manly said:
One thing I'll say about the Newegg DIY bundles is they don't seem to last long. Sometimes a few hours and they're out of stock.

If past history holds up, Black Friday will indeed be a good time to place your orders. You can buy the RM750x PSU now if you'd like, but you run the small risk that if it's DOA you won't know until 2 months later and will have to RMA the thing with Corsair. So usually it's advisable to buy everything within about a 2 week window to get all your ducks lined up in a row for the build. And you can easily return stuff to Amazon/Newegg if necessary.

I went ahead and picked up the psu just to take advantage of the sale. I’ve redone the list on pc parts picked, I’ll send an update when I’m home

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