Who here thinks the October Surprise is actually how rapid Trumps social decline is?

Amol S.

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We all know Trump was in some form of social decline, but I doubt it would be at this fast of a rate in the past few recent months. For example, at the beginning of this year Trump at his rallies would at least talk and ramble about something in an energetic way. However recently, his rallies are either him now dancing to YMCA, cancelling them, or being even more incoherent. This is quite a stark contrast to how he was in the summer.
 

trenchfoot

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What's so noticeable is how the media is not making much of a fuss over his aberrant behavior. What's even more noticeable is how the crowds at his sermons act like nothing's wrong when all of that wrong is being performed right there on stage directly in front of them. That orange turd is losing it more and more yet for some really odd reason it "ain't no thang". Can you just imagine if Biden or Harris went off on a weird song and dance routine like the one Trump performed? Trump keeps pushing the "weird is normal" boundaries further and further out there into unexplored psychological frontiers and his followers are chanting, singing and rejoicing right along with him. It's fucking insane, and they all have convinced themselves that there's nothing wrong with him that should matter at the polls which in itself is insane. WTF is happening that so millions of them are following the Pathological Pied Pipsqueak down the Yellow Brick Road and rabbit hole so willingly?
 

Thump553

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What's so noticeable is how the media is not making much of a fuss over his aberrant behavior. What's even more noticeable is how the crowds at his sermons act like nothing's wrong when all of that wrong is being performed right there on stage directly in front of them. That orange turd is losing it more and more yet for some really odd reason it "ain't no thang". Can you just imagine if Biden or Harris went off on a weird song and dance routine like the one Trump performed? Trump keeps pushing the "weird is normal" boundaries further and further out there into unexplored psychological frontiers and his followers are chanting, singing and rejoicing right along with him. It's fucking insane, and they all have convinced themselves that there's nothing wrong with him that should matter at the polls which in itself is insane. WTF is happening that so millions of them are following the Pathological Pied Pipsqueak down the Yellow Brick Road and rabbit hole so willingly?
Actually I think the media is starting to pay attention. The network evening news shows are on YT. Last night I skimmed through both CBS and ABC and both frequently prominently Trump's "exhaustion" (his campaign's official explanation), multiple cancelations, aberrant behavior at his events, etc.

OTOH what is the mass media anymore? I'm old enough to remember when the network evening news shows were it, that something didn't really happen unless it was covered there. Today I strongly suspect those shows have trivial level ratings. Weekly news magazines like Newsweek are pretty much just another website these days and newspapers - the lifeblood of this nation's public discourse since before the Revolution are pretty much gone or greatly declined. Social media is awash with Johnny One Note providers/influencers that hammer one particular viewpoint over and over.

The one thing that is closest to mass media these days is the late night talk shows (Daily Show, Colbert, Kimmel, etc) and they certainly have covered Trump's behavior ad nauseum.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Actually I think the media is starting to pay attention. The network evening news shows are on YT. Last night I skimmed through both CBS and ABC and both frequently prominently Trump's "exhaustion" (his campaign's official explanation), multiple cancelations, aberrant behavior at his events, etc.
They are, I've personally seen an uptick on stories specifically regarding his mental state, rather than the batty bullshit he's saying (which doesn't even make the news anymore).

Hopefully he just shits himself on stage and starts screaming about commie aliens in another week or so.
 
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akenbennu

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We see it, yet it still looks like a toss up. This is deeply concerning since the last two Presidential cycles had Clinton and Biden both had significant poll leads and they narrowed by about 5 points come election day.
 
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dank69

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We see it, yet it still looks like a toss up. This is deeply concerning since the last two Presidential cycles had Clinton and Biden both had significant poll leads and they narrowed by about 5 points come election day.
That's typical as "independents" and "never Trump" conservatives begin to face the reality of actually voting for a Democrat, something they never want to admit has been drilled into them from birth as unforgivable. They might get to the pearly gates only to find grampy ready to give them the belt for all eternity. Suddenly voting for Trump doesn't look so bad.
 

JTsyo

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I think the issue is Trump has always been weird so any decline is compared to that instead of what's expected of a leader. I can't recall hearing him answering a question that was asked with a direct answer this year. It's always some rambling mess or he just answers with some other point.
 

Stokely

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Yep, he started from a place of weirdness ages ago.

Now he pretty obviously has dementia or some other loss of function but the magas don't care. He's just a means to end.

And they are just a means to an end to him. He won't make a single move to do "mass deportation" for example if he wins. He's just using their fear and envy and racism to get into office. (Vance and the other project 2025 creeps might though, because it won't be those billionaires getting hurt when the economy implodes).

We will see President JD Vance within a year if Trump wins. He'll either die (he's already above life expectancy for American males and he's hardly a health nut) or get yanked out of office by Republicans to put their creepy boy wonder in charge.
 

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zinfamous

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What's so noticeable is how the media is not making much of a fuss over his aberrant behavior. What's even more noticeable is how the crowds at his sermons act like nothing's wrong when all of that wrong is being performed right there on stage directly in front of them. That orange turd is losing it more and more yet for some really odd reason it "ain't no thang". Can you just imagine if Biden or Harris went off on a weird song and dance routine like the one Trump performed? Trump keeps pushing the "weird is normal" boundaries further and further out there into unexplored psychological frontiers and his followers are chanting, singing and rejoicing right along with him. It's fucking insane, and they all have convinced themselves that there's nothing wrong with him that should matter at the polls which in itself is insane. WTF is happening that so millions of them are following the Pathological Pied Pipsqueak down the Yellow Brick Road and rabbit hole so willingly?
This is what happens when you capture, as the entirely of your base, purely faithful believers. They don't care about what's happening in front of them, they just need to believe. They are in every possible way, a cult of personality.


Probably the most revered saint in all of Catholicism, St Francis, seems to have been a pretty cool, nice dude. Talked to animals and such, the animals loved him. Took a vow of poverty, an entire order was founded in his name, dedicated solely to the poor and indigent.

...but by all accounts, the dude was a schizophrenic lunatic...he wasn't talking to animals, he was talking to things that no one else saw. The stigmata that he famously received (I think like, only two other saints were claimed to have been zapped by angel lasers to create the wounds of christ on his body), probably some bleeding pustules from not bathing for years and sleeping in mud.

Nice dude, maybe, probably...who knows, really--but you have to understand something about the devout: they don't know shit. All they need to do is believe in something and everything in front of them that challenges their belief will be a lie. This is what the Southern Strategy was all about, and this is why the brains of modern Conservatives are completely scrambled after decades of belief-building.
 

zinfamous

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TDS, find a hobby.

Isn't it interesting how this fucking cult of lunatics calls "actual, legitimate observation of traitorous, sociopathic lunatic rapists pieces of a shit" a "derangement," merely to point out this truth, over and over again?

Isn't that weird? To this day, 8 fucking years later, fucking loser cvnts like mindless1 up here still believe they aren't in this fucking personality cult of fucking weird assholes. The things that they have to tell themselves to explain their psycopathy.

seek help, mindless1: you're fucking weird and everyone around you knows it. Your feet probably stink, too, fucking weirdo.
 

WelshBloke

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Isn't it interesting how this fucking cult of lunatics calls "actual, legitimate observation of traitorous, sociopathic lunatic rapists pieces of a shit" a "derangement," merely to point out this truth, over and over again?

Isn't that weird? To this day, 8 fucking years later, fucking loser cvnts like mindless1 up here still believe they aren't in this fucking personality cult of fucking weird assholes. The things that they have to tell themselves to explain their psycopathy.

seek help, mindless1: you're fucking weird and everyone around you knows it. Your feet probably stink, too, fucking weirdo.
What's fucking insane is to look at, and listen to, Trump recently and think "Yeah, I totally think that guy is competent to run a country".
How the fuck is that happening? Are people not paying attention to his dribbling insanity?
 

akugami

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What's fucking insane is to look at, and listen to, Trump recently and think "Yeah, I totally think that guy is competent to run a country".
How the fuck is that happening? Are people not paying attention to his dribbling insanity?

Remember his base is even dumber, mentally insane, racist dipshits, or just plain brainwashed. So yeah, as insane as Trump always has been, he's a fucking stable genius compared to those mental midgets.
 
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I think the issue is Trump has always been weird so any decline is compared to that instead of what's expected of a leader. I can't recall hearing him answering a question that was asked with a direct answer this year. It's always some rambling mess or he just answers with some other point.

I can't recall that since 2016. He's always just shovelled bullshit and spouted off whatever nonsense.

All the stuff people are talking about is shit he's been doing since 2016, its just in bigger spurts because he's older.

You don't think Turmp will do mass deportations? He might try to do them in such a stupid manner that they get overruled by courts (although that's more doubtful with the SCROTUS), but I don't think there's any doubt he would do them, and ASAP. I mean, did you already forget that the splitting families to deport the parents happened under his rule?

I don't think Republicans can do that. MAGA will turn against them. And they are the ones making the threats. If they pull Turmp out, they will show up like Jan 6 again, only this time, they'll be carrying addresses of Republicans with them. Unless Republicans are willing to go to war with the people that put them in power, they aren't gonna do jack shit about Turmp, the only way he'll be removed from office by them is to die.

I'm not so sure about JD Vance. If Turmp dies, I doubt Vance lasts long in office before Republicans yank him out, because he doesn't fit in with them and there's about zero chance he doesns't do something catastrophically stupid. He's a lapdog, and no one but Peter Thiel likes him (and I don't think Thiel is exactly popular or even wants to be popular with Republicans, he thinks he's above them and he's also into the shit that average Republicans are taught to hate, he's the nearest equivalent to Dracula we've probably ever had). He has no actual leadership skills or anything, he's just a follower who mimics others and gets all his thoughts from somewhere else. That will trash Republicans worse than anything Turmp has done because liberals already find him to be a reprehensible creep (and they'll be able to exploit the hell out of his thin skin, just keep calling him a fucking weirdo), and conservatives will see him for the fucking weird creep he is while he also just fails. Further, he is exactly what they've been railing against for decades now, well educated, out of touch, no thoughts or ideals of his own, weakass simp. The Turmpers believe his Hillbilly Elegy, but everyone else knows its full of shit and it will become apparent very quickly. He'll be embarrassing internationally (outside of sucking Bibi's dick). He'll end up looking like he belongs at the kids table. He might legit start sucking Putin's dick live on TV if given the opportunity.
 

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From an "Evils" perspective, where Economic Structure is not part of that set, can anyone differentiate between the Soviet Union and Project 2025 on things that are not just cosmetic? Meaning, everyone was expected to snitch on anyone about even Thought Crime, Government determined acceptable/unacceptable Political/Social discourse, Government removes Ideological opponents, and other minutia of Controls are imposed upon Everyone is Standard to both.
 

gothuevos

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From an "Evils" perspective, where Economic Structure is not part of that set, can anyone differentiate between the Soviet Union and Project 2025 on things that are not just cosmetic? Meaning, everyone was expected to snitch on anyone about even Thought Crime, Government determined acceptable/unacceptable Political/Social discourse, Government removes Ideological opponents, and other minutia of Controls are imposed upon Everyone is Standard to both.

We finally found the real communists.
 
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I think the issue is Trump has always been weird so any decline is compared to that instead of what's expected of a leader. I can't recall hearing him answering a question that was asked with a direct answer this year. It's always some rambling mess or he just answers with some other point.
you just don’t understand the weave….
 
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