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fskimospy

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Risk aversion is huge in the launch industry (Boeing is just incompetence).

One of the slogan's in the industry before SpaceX was "If it hasn't flow before, it doesn't fly". This resulted in huge stagnation of development because once something worked, nobody wanted to make modifications no matter how much sense they made. This resulted in decades old technology still flying. The tried and true method of carrying communication in your rocket to flight control systems was what was called a wiring harness. This was a cumbersome bundle of cables that went up the side of the rocket. The cables were expensive, time consuming to integrate and heavy. However it worked successfully for decades so that is what flew. SpaceX replaced that bundle of cables with standard Cat-5 cable for communication and called it good.

While SpaceX's use of full propulsive recovery was innovative for the F9 booster. McDonnell Douglas had worked on something similar in the 90's with the DC-X technology demonstrator. However they only worked on it because the Govt was footing most of the bill. Once the government lost interest, McDonnell Douglas also lost interest. The entire project had a lot of potential to be a basis for the 1st stage of a orbital class launch vehicle but McDonnell was not going to foot the bill. Blue Origin eventually up hired a lot of the DC-X people and the New Sheppard is inspired by the DC-X.

SpaceX has shown the industry that you need to be able to continuously innovate if you are going to stay relevant.
I think they've also shown that your rockets occasionally exploding is okay and that failure is nothing to be feared.
 
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K1052

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Buying votes is a time honored tradition in the U.S. Biden bought votes by forgiving student loans. Harris is talking about $20k forgivable loans. No matter how you cut it it's a transaction, money for votes. At least Musk is giving away his own money and not mine.

Musk is giving away his money so that he can get Trump to give away a lot more of your money to himself (and people like him) which will in the process accelerate the demise of programs you are probably depending on.
 

ch33zw1z

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Buying votes is a time honored tradition in the U.S. Biden bought votes by forgiving student loans. Harris is talking about $20k forgivable loans. No matter how you cut it it's a transaction, money for votes. At least Musk is giving away his own money and not mine.

lol, I mean….he’s offering it, which is not to say he’ll actually pay, kinda like your guy trump
 
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Buying votes is a time honored tradition in the U.S. Biden bought votes by forgiving student loans. Harris is talking about $20k forgivable loans. No matter how you cut it it's a transaction, money for votes. At least Musk is giving away his own money and not mine.
That’s policy positions, they are different from a rich guy paying for them.
 
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Greenman

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That’s policy positions, they are different from a rich guy paying for them.
Its a quid pro quo and specific to a group. The only difference is where the money comes from. If Phony Stark want's give me a million bucks for saying I'll support two existing constitutional amendments, sign me up!
 

brycejones

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Its a quid pro quo and specific to a group. The only difference is where the money comes from. If Phony Stark want's give me a million bucks for saying I'll support two existing constitutional amendments, sign me up!
Looking forward to that 30% cut in SS benefits in 2031 under Trump's plan?
 
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It’s a quid pro quo and specific to a group. The only difference is where the money comes from. If Phony Stark want's give me a million bucks for saying I'll support two existing constitutional amendments, sign me up!
I get what you are thinking then I will count on your support when the topic of handing water or umbrellas or whatever comes up yet again when some volunteer hands out basic stuff to people waiting in line to vote.
I will bookmark this and I expect you to keep your commitment.
 
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Greenman

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I get what you are thinking then I will count on your support when the topic of handing water or umbrellas or whatever comes up yet again when some volunteer hands out basic stuff to people waiting in line to vote.
I will bookmark this and I expect you to keep your commitment.
I have no issue with handing out swag to a line of voters.
 

ch33zw1z

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He can't even care about himself because Trump's econ plan is going to be terrible for retirees lol. Guy he's voting for thinks he should have to go back to work.

True, just another a reason I’m voting g Harris. I have two 70+ parents using the gubbermint assistance, reducing their SS payments would basically mean them working more than they already have to
 

K1052

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True, just another a reason I’m voting g Harris. I have two 70+ parents using the gubbermint assistance, reducing their SS payments would basically mean them working more than they already have to

Trump's tariff plans will also fuel major inflation and very much harm people on fixed incomes.
 
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