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balloonshark

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I can't fucking believe this election. I just saw Ted Cruz's ad while turning the Yankees-Guardians game on and it literally said his opponent was going to sterilize children and force sex changes on them in the schools if elected to the senate. I'm dead serious, this isn't something from The Onion. And of course Cruz will win because fucking Texas.
I was watching football yesterday and an ad said that Kamala was going to pay for prisoners to get transgender surgeries. The republican party is a total loss at this point. There is no truth and no one holding them accountable for what they say or do.

Key Points:
  • In 2019, Vice President Kamala Harris did express support for a policy that would give access to trans people who depend on state-funded health care — including inmates and detained immigrants — to gender-affirming care, which includes surgery.
  • Harris and her campaign have declined to say whether she still supported it in 2024.
  • However, it has been the policy in federal prisons since at least 2016, according to Bureau of Federal Prisons' guidance issued in 2016 and updated in 2022. Both President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden have maintained it. The policy follows the medical recommendations of every major medical association in the U.S.
  • In 2022, a court ordered the first gender-affirming surgery for a trans federal inmate, affirming this long-standing policy. In 2023, the U.S. Supreme Court allowed an appeal to stand that ruled gender dysphoria could be included in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

 
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Indus

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Seems Wisconsin polls are 52-48 trump and tipping it in his favor.

Hopefully wrong but I've noticed a few of you say Wisconsin is going red.
 
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brycejones

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I was watching football yesterday and an ad said that Kamala was going to pay for prisoners to get transgender surgeries. The republican party is a total loss at this point. There is no truth and no one holding them accountable for what they say or do.



Look at the scary brown people. Look at the scary trans person. Don’t look at the completely predictable results of our deregulation, tax, and tariff policies.

Basically what the GOP is running on this cycle.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Cough, seems gender affirming surgeries were supported under the Trump administration. Oh dear.


The Trump administration signed off on sex-change surgeries for transgender prisoners, according to reports.

Officials in the justice department gave the green light to procedures that also included hormone therapy and hair removal in 2018 while Donald Trump was in the White House, the New York Times reports.


The Republican presidential candidate has repeatedly attacked Kamala Harris for having previously supported sex changes for transgender inmates.

Prison bureau officials wrote in a budget memo to Congress in February 2018 that the government was obligated to pay for sex-change procedures if deemed medically necessary.

“Transgender offenders may require individual counselling and emotional support,” they said.
 
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Pens1566

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I really don't want to make a prediction this year ... but, gun to my head, I would guess that the polls are wrong (like most of them since '20) and are probably favoring Trump incorrectly by 3-4pts. I'd say give Kamala all of MI/WI/PA/NV/AZ and one of GA/NC. TX and FL end up being closer than '20, but not yet blue/purple. D's regain house and keep Senate at either 50/50 or 51/49.

https://www.270towin.com/map-images/nLbvx
 
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Indus

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I really don't want to make a prediction this year ... but, gun to my head, I would guess that the polls are wrong (like most of them since '20) and are probably favoring Trump incorrectly by 3-4pts. I'd say give Kamala all of MI/WI/PA/NV/AZ and one of GA/NC. TX and FL end up being closer than '20, but not yet blue/purple. D's regain house and keep Senate at either 50/50 or 51/49.

Keep the faith Pen.. fingers crossed!
 

cytg111

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Mar 17, 2008
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Just saw this on colbert, Harris is leading in early voting, some 13 million in at a whooping 2:1 ratio. That's not bad.

Also, Trump slipping with non-college white voters?

 

Hans Gruber

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Does this scenario have a sudden death round where the first candidate that comes out with an incoherent sentence loses?
I setup my electoral college map based on how I see things playing out right now. On election day, things can change because of corruption. If the electoral college is tied. They go to house election results and whichever party controls the house chooses the President.
 

NWRMidnight

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I setup my electoral college map based on how I see things playing out right now. On election day, things can change because of corruption. If the electoral college is tied. They go to house election results and whichever party controls the house chooses the President.
That's not accurate. The party that controls the house does not chose the President if it's a tie. Each state only gets 1 vote. Majority (26 votes) wins.
 
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UNCjigga

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Dec 12, 2000
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I avoided this thread too long. Had I posted earlier, I’d probably say that Harris gets 310+ votes easily with both Michigan, Georgia and NC. But sadly, I think the below scenario is far more likely.

My final prediction is that Harris wins PA and NC (really good ground game I can see here) but doesn’t win Georgia or Mich. But really, NC and GA are interchangeable—I think she wins one or the other but not both. The problem with this scenario is that I don’t think she wins Georgia by more than 0.5% of votes. If any recount is triggered in GA and she loses NC, the probability of Trump winning goes up exponentially. Hell, Trump could eke out a win in NM or even surprise us in NH and win the damn thing outright. For that reason alone I’d say Trump still has a better than 50% chance of winning the whole damn thing.

Remember, the race isn’t really about him as a candidate, flaws and all. It’s about the ideology/belief system driving his candidacy that wants to win at all costs.

PS: I voted Sunday.

 

hal2kilo

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I was watching football yesterday and an ad said that Kamala was going to pay for prisoners to get transgender surgeries. The republican party is a total loss at this point. There is no truth and no one holding them accountable for what they say or do.



Trump admin was perfectly fine implementing the law.
 

brycejones

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It is accurate. I will add the Senate decides the Vice President if there is a tie in the electoral election.
You do realize it’s possible for a party to have a majority in a majority of state delegations in the house and not actually be the party that has the votes to elect the speaker right? The minority party can elect the President if it goes to a vote in the house.
 

APU_Fusion

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Here is actually the most realistic map, if one were to take the average, of aggregated polls in each state, and no leanings.
View attachment 109681
I would scream down the street in joy with this map. Then get drunk, and wail against the side of the house like the Jews at the Wailing Wall.

Please have Trump finally shit his colon and be put in home. Please have Trump finally shit his colon and be put in home. Please have Trump finally shit his colon and be put in home. Please have Trump finally shit his colon and be put in home. Please have Trump finally shit his colon and be put in home. Please have Trump finally shit his colon and be put in home. Please have Trump finally shit his colon and be put in home.
 
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Hans Gruber

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You do realize it’s possible for a party to have a majority in a majority of state delegations in the house and not actually be the party that has the votes to elect the speaker right? The minority party can elect the President if it goes to a vote in the house.
There are 435 house votes/seats. After the election the new congress is sworn in on or around January 3rd 2025. Right now the Republicans hold a 10 seat majority in the house. I do not understand what you are saying. It's possible that a few members of congress could vote for the other candidate outside their party affiliation. If there were a tie in the electoral college. It would go to the congress which is known as the house. If the democrats flip enough seats in November to gain a majority of congressional seats. Harris would be elected President. They vote by party lines. The minority party cannot elect the President unless they can convince the other party to change their party line vote.
 
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brycejones

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There are 435 house votes/seats. After the election the new congress is sworn in on or around January 3rd 2025. Right now the Republicans hold a 10 seat majority in the house. I do not understand what you are saying. It's possible that a few members of congress could vote for the other candidate outside their party affiliation. If there were a tie in the electoral college. It would go to the congress which is known as the house. If the democrats flip enough seats in November to gain a majority of congressional seats. Harris would be elected President. They vote by party lines. The minority party cannot elect the President unless they can convince the other party to change their party line vote.
You haven't actually read the Constitution have you?

If the house votes for President there aren't 435 votes. There are 50 votes. One per state. With that knowledge now please re-read my previous comment.
 
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IronWing

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There are 435 house votes/seats. After the election the new congress is sworn in on or around January 3rd 2025. Right now the Republicans hold a 10 seat majority in the house. I do not understand what you are saying. It's possible that a few members of congress could vote for the other candidate outside their party affiliation. If there were a tie in the electoral college. It would go to the congress which is known as the house. If the democrats flip enough seats in November to gain a majority of congressional seats. Harris would be elected President. They vote by party lines. The minority party cannot elect the President unless they can convince the other party to change their party line vote.

Amendment XII (1804)
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;—The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;—The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President—The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

One party could hold the majority of House seats while another party held the majority of the states' represented in the House.
 
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nickqt

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Amendment XII (1804)
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;—The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;—The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President—The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
To be clear:

Each individual State's House Delegation gets together and they vote amongst themselves to determine who gets the 1 House Vote they get to cast for President.

California has 52 House Members. A solid majority will be Democrats after the 2024 Election. The Democrats will outvote the Republicans and California's one vote will go to Harris.

Texas has 38 House Members. A solid majority will be Republicans after the 2024 Election. The Republicans will outvote the Democrats and Texas' one vote will go to Trump.

Rinse, repeat.

To be elected by the House, the candidate will need a majority of votes, which would be 26.
 
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