Think you forgot a few good ones 🤣
Overall, it seems a lot of the Intellers have gone quiet and contemplating switching because they know Intel won't be able to pull out a leprechaun out of their hat in less than two years to counter this level of performance increase in gaming.
It's not a RAM chip, it's an active interposer with DDR memory controllers.I have to say, it's a super interesting concept. I can't really imagine it being used in server or desktop CPUs, would they really route hundreds of watts of power (total) through DDR chips?
But I'd really like to see a mobile chip where the entire CPU is placed on top of the RAM. This looks like the next logical step up from the "memory on package" era, offering power (and potentially latency) improvements.
However, it's worth noting that not every exciting packaging patent ends up being used. Remember this one:
https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20210097013.pdf
I think the DDR label there is just from DDR memory controller on the AIB base tile.I have to say, it's a super interesting concept. I can't really imagine it being used in server or desktop CPUs, would they really route hundreds of watts of power (total) through DDR chips?
But I'd really like to see a mobile chip where the entire CPU is placed on top of the RAM. This looks like the next logical step up from the "memory on package" era, offering power (and potentially latency) improvements.
However, it's worth noting that not every exciting packaging patent ends up being used. Remember this one:
https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20210097013.pdf
OK, that makes much more sense. Could you link the original patent? My google fu failed me, and i persumed too muchIt's not a RAM chip, it's an active interposer with DDR memory controllers.
OK, that makes much more sense. Could you link the original patent? My google fu failed me, and i persumed too much
More expensive doesn't necessarily mean better.I was thinking in ball park of 300-350$
Yeah any workloads that re-use data a lot will benefit. The most important benefit should be in doing multiple things at once, like browsing while there's encoding going on in the background and also Discord running etc.I am also wondering if AMD will not make X3D part of its main product line. Surely more than just games would benefit from more L3?
Think you forgot a few good ones 🤣
If they buy their own retail samples, yes. But if they want to keep receiving review samples from Intel, they may try to focus more on points other than performance.HWUB, Gamers Nexus
OMG I can only imagine Framechasers ridiculous face...Speaking of that ... Anyone care to guess what kind of stupid headlines and over the top thumbnails HWUB, Gamers Nexus, etc will use for the launch reviews?
I bet the "arrow to the knee" meme is too sweet to pass on.
Quite a lot of Arrow Hate upcoming indeed ...
If they buy their own retail samples, yes. But if they want to keep receiving review samples from Intel, they may try to focus more on points other than performance.
Thanks to you i checked out asrock mobos did not have once since q8300 or q6600 (still have them xD)More expensive doesn't necessarily mean better.
People get discrete sound cards for better sound anyway.
lol you have to wear protection when going into the comment section or you will catch something.Wccftech comments section sucks. Give a club for all of them and they all kill each other.
Thats why its fun, lol.Wccftech comments section sucks. Give a club for all of them and they all kill each other.
And you laughed at me when i said 9800x3d will be 15-20% over 7800x3d then next day igor posted the benches and you started hyping 9800x3d with memes xDThats why its fun, lol.
The power consumption of the X3D chips in those benchmarks are impressive.Computerbase updated their gaming benchmarks with power consumption
also measured.
FI the 7800X3D wich reign supreme in the gaming charts has as much as 3x the perf/watt of the least efficient contender.
AMD Ryzen vs. Intel Core: Gaming-Benchmarks mit Windows 11 24H2
48 Stunden vor Core Ultra 200S gibt's neue Gaming-Benchmarks: AMD Ryzen vs. Intel Core mit letzten BIOS-Updates auf Windows 11 24H2 im Test.www.computerbase.de
Where did I laugh at you? But yes, without the obvious hefty tuning that was done in the bench Igor posted I still think the chip will struggle to achieve +15% average in gaming vs 7800X3D. 5.2GHz just wont be enough for that outside of games that already benefit from Zen 5 architecture.And you laughed at me when i said 9800x3d will be 15-20% over 7800x3d then next day igor posted the benches and you started hyping 9800x3d with memes xD
Also check out asrock x870 RS pro wifi. I think its best bang for buck mobo right now or did you not return that mobo yet ?
Kepler just posted a patent that is one level above of what I was thinking, namely, there is a separate "pair node" which sits on top of IOD / AID. This "pair node" I am guessing would be SRAM for L3.
My thinking was that there could just be a section of the bottom die dedicated to L3.