I think the CL36 RAM should be returned but that's just me. I would prefer to pay a little extra for 6400C30 RAM becauseAre these concerns big enough that I should return anything to swap it out?
Do you see any issues with fitment as well?Your PSU is ATX 3.0 compliant so it should be fine.
I’ll have to see what the return policy from the site I ordered from is, to see if it’s worth it, and what timeline I would be looking at. Im already considerably over the initial budget I wanted 😬. Granted I could have been much better about deal shoppingI think the CL36 RAM should be returned but that's just me. I would prefer to pay a little extra for 6400C30 RAM because
Check here: https://notkyon.moe/ram-latency2.htm
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But that's valid only if your CPU/mobo/BIOS can handle 6400 MT/s. Suppose all it can do is 6000 CL30. Then things look like this:
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That's two nanoseconds shaved off for every memory access. To me, that's a big enough deal for an additional 20 or 30 bucks.
The clearance problem is likely going to be due to the cables exiting the side of the PSU instead of the back. I believe I saw somewhere that you need 30mm of clearance on the side of the PSU to the back panel. You could test it out and see if it works before trying to return/buy something new. Maybe it just hasn't been tested yet, not sure there.As I said to Igor, I made sure the power supply still met the minimum standards and that the estimated wattage is still less than 500w in total. I only have videos and reading to go based on, but I thought this would leave enough headroom?
As far as the psu/case compatibility, I made sure the case had the proper amount of clearance for the psu. The psu is only 160mm tall and the case allows for 180mm clearance. Or is the side access for the cables the problem?
Pcpartpicker should warn you if there is an issue with compatibility but other than that, I'm not sure. The Shift PSU with side cables is different from a regular PSU so you may need to check if your case can support that.Do you see any issues with fitment as well?
I didn't notice the CL36 until you mentioned it. I think we were all picking out CL30 RAM when putting lists together.I think the CL36 RAM should be returned but that's just me. I would prefer to pay a little extra for 6400C30 RAM because
Check here: https://notkyon.moe/ram-latency2.htm
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But that's valid only if your CPU/mobo/BIOS can handle 6400 MT/s. Suppose all it can do is 6000 CL30. Then things look like this:
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That's two nanoseconds shaved off for every memory access. To me, that's a big enough deal for an additional 20 or 30 bucks.
It's the kind of thing that would bother me, since I'm addicted to benchmarks. The OP shouldn't be able to notice it, unless his brain is nanoseconds sensitiveSo I don't know how much this would really affect real use cases, certainly up to the OP to decide.
Well the case should be here within the next few days, so I’ll have a bit of time to check it before the cpu arrives. The worst case scenario for me is that it doesn’t fit and I can just set aside the case for my son’s Xmas build. I’m sure I can grab something off of Amazon and have it before I get the cpu in (nov 1st)The clearance problem is likely going to be due to the cables exiting the side of the PSU instead of the back. I believe I saw somewhere that you need 30mm of clearance on the side of the PSU to the back panel. You could test it out and see if it works before trying to return/buy something new. Maybe it just hasn't been tested yet, not sure there.
I definitely did read up on this stuff outside of this forum, and it seemed the general consensus was that higher numbers didn’t equate to better. I made sure the cl36 wouldn’t be a big issue and bought the Corsair vengeance because they’re reputable and I like the look.I didn't notice the CL36 until you mentioned it. I think we were all picking out CL30 RAM when putting lists together.
There's always places to spend more money for a little more performance. The question becomes where do you stop? The real world differences I saw in benchmarking games on my system between various RAM speeds was only 1-5 fps once the rated EXPO frequency was achieved , certainly not ground breaking. I saw a decent jump going from base speeds to EXPO, but after that wasn't much. So I don't know how much this would really affect real use cases, certainly up to the OP to decide.
It most certainly is not😂. I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I’m still using my 10 year old pc (no upgrades). I’m sure things could be better optimized, but I have to remind myself the huge jump in performance im about to make. I also don’t know if the ram speed would even matter, given that the 7500f will probably limit the 7900gre to a some small degree.It's the kind of thing that would bother me, since I'm addicted to benchmarks. The OP shouldn't be able to notice it, unless his brain is nanoseconds sensitive
Unfortunately they don’t have the sv02 on pc part picker, but it does seem like it may have an issue with the montech xr and they are very similar cases.Pcpartpicker should warn you if there is an issue with compatibility but other than that, I'm not sure. The Shift PSU with side cables is different from a regular PSU so you may need to check if your case can support that.
Your build is a little unbalanced towards the GPU side, especially considering the plan to play at 1080 to start. But like you said it will be a huge improvement over your existing PC so it's not the end of the world. If your happy with it when it's all said and done that's really all that matters. I'm sure there are people that look at my build and think I wasted money or they would have spent the money differently. That's what's great about DIY, you can build what YOU want, not what somebody else wants.It most certainly is not😂. I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I’m still using my 10 year old pc (no upgrades). I’m sure things could be better optimized, but I have to remind myself the huge jump in performance im about to make. I also don’t know if the ram speed would even matter, given that the 7500f will probably limit the 7900gre to a some small degree.
I absolutely could be wrong about that, I’ve been watching videos and reading a bunch, but my knowledge here is still pretty limited.
All will be well when he upgrades to the 9800X3D when it's under $300 in two years.Your build is a little unbalanced towards the GPU side, especially considering the plan to play at 1080 to start.
No guarantees, but a 10700X3D could be sweet in 2027.All will be well when he upgrades to the 9800X3D when it's under $300 in two years.
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He could return the 7500F, splurge on the 9800X3D and divide its expense by 24 to come out with a monthly expense figure that would feel palatable
I’ll only be on the 1080p monitor until Christmas, at the latest. I knew the 7500f was a bit underpowered for the gpu, but I wanted the build to be a good base setup and be able to upgrade parts later on. I figured I could get more life out of the gpu if I just went with the best option(near my budget) that would make sense. It makes more sense to me to have a “good enough” cpu, for now, and a better gpu. I’m not sure if my thinking here is flawed though. Either way I’m excited to get back into gaming again!Your build is a little unbalanced towards the GPU side, especially considering the plan to play at 1080 to start. But like you said it will be a huge improvement over your existing PC so it's not the end of the world. If your happy with it when it's all said and done that's really all that matters. I'm sure there are people that look at my build and think I wasted money or they would have spent the money differently. That's what's great about DIY, you can build what YOU want, not what somebody else wants.
I think the two year plan makes more sense for me 😂. I’ve actually read some stuff about the 9800x3d not being much better than the 7800x3d. Is there any truth to that?All will be well when he upgrades to the 9800X3D when it's under $300 in two years.
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He could return the 7500F, splurge on the 9800X3D and divide its expense by 24 to come out with a monthly expense figure that would feel palatable
We hopefully find out on 25th or definitely on November 7th.I’ve actually read some stuff about the 9800x3d not being much better than the 7800x3d. Is there any truth to that?
I’m seriously starting to see why it’s so easy to fall into the endless money pit with this stuff😅. I originally wanted to stick around like $900, as you can see that plan went out the windowNo guarantees, but a 10700X3D could be sweet in 2027.
Of course he'd then be bottlenecked by the GPU, so he'd have to do something there too.
It's still a huge cooler. I think you only need a dual tower cooler with a dual chiplet CPU.My question is, will the single tower cooler be adequate for use ?
How about you? Howz the LT720 working for you? I guess you are using it just for higher boost speeds and not OCing? How loud do its fans get?No issues with temps.
No issues with it at all. I honestly bought it for the looks. Temps are fine. It will still get into the 90s all core since I have it running at higher than stock PPT. But it's quiet. I have the unifans set to like 30% until it hits 80C then ramp up. For most tasks it stays in the '60s or '70s.How about you? Howz the LT720 working for you? I guess you are using it just for higher boost speeds and not OCing? How loud do its fans get?