Kind of surprisingly, there is nothing in the US Constitution that bars a candidate with criminal convictions from running or holding the highest office in our land. Fixing that would require a constitutional amendment…something that is intentionally very difficult.I'm not optimistic. I've planned a Turkey-Day visit to seem relatives, and we've all agreed to limit our conversations about politics. But I'd really feel better if Trump loses in the official popular vote count and the electoral college -- that he loses the election, and Jack Smith's prosecutions, in the courts of Chutkan and Cannon -- possibly with Cannon removed from the Florida case.
The other thing I've thought about recently is a situation with someone convicted of 34 felony counts allowed to run for office. Trump should've been disqualified for those convictions alone.
After the dust settles, there must be a legislative agenda to patch up our ;government and its safeguards. I don't see that happening easily unless the Democrats regain a majority in the House.
Otherwise, this might not anymore be the US of A that it was when I sat on a living-room floor in 1952 or 1953 and watched Douglas McArthur make his farewell speech to Congress. Lucky I was -- we had to have that RCA B/W TV repaired sometimes once every two weeks until it was finally reliable.
I can see the logic of the current status. It makes it less useful to an incumbent to trump up charges against an opponent and preclude the opponent from the ballot. The framers probably thought the electorate would have the discernment to recognize an actual crook but, alas.Kind of surprisingly, there is nothing in the US Constitution that bars a candidate with criminal convictions from running or holding the highest office in our land. Fixing that would require a constitutional amendment…something that is intentionally very difficult.
If he loses he'll run again in 2028 if just to keep out of prison; it's his party. At this point the GOP base is a cult. Maybe you don't see it because you don't live in a red state but where I live I see Trump shirts, Trump hats, Trump flags, Trump bumper stickers EVERYWHERE.
A hallmark of authoritarian regimes around the world is convicting political opponents of trumped up (har) crimes to keep them out of office.Kind of surprisingly, there is nothing in the US Constitution that bars a candidate with criminal convictions from running or holding the highest office in our land. Fixing that would require a constitutional amendment…something that is intentionally very difficult.
And he will starting next January.A hallmark of authoritarian regimes around the world is convicting political opponents of trumped up (har) crimes to keep them out of office.
It sucks here because Trump is absolutely guilty of this and more but Trump would happily wield that power against us.
Well he has to win first which I would... not wager on.And he will starting next January.
I think he has a better chance of winning than Dems are giving him credit for.Well he has to win first which I would... not wager on.
We know why they were not swiftly handled on Jan 6.We need more Ashli Babbitts. In fact, there should have been way more just on J6.
Dems are not underestimating him this time. We all remember 2016 like it was yesterday. Nobody on the left is going to claim he can't win until all the votes are counted.I think he has a better chance of winning than Dems are giving him credit for.
They're still going to lose. I don't get why there aren't constant Harris ads talking about how a vote for her caps Medicare prescription drug copays at $2000 a year starting 2025 and that Trump will kill that ASAP if elected. Or that Trump has defunded Social Security in the past, ran before on making the defunding permanent, and will do it in 2025 if elected even if he is smart enough to not run on it this time. Because that kills Social Security, a longtime Republican wet dream. I don't understand why they don't run on those two issues and talk about them nonstop. It's how they won in 2012 despite Obama being a very weak incumbent at the time by correctly focusing on Romney and Ryan ending Medicare and pushing grandma off the cliff in their TV ads. Now they're going to lose because they're not focusing on these two critical issues and instead on how Trump is unqualified. That was a fucking losing strategy in 2016 and it will lose again in 2024.Dems are not underestimating him this time. We all remember 2016 like it was yesterday. Nobody on the left is going to claim he can't win until all the votes are counted.
I'm still somewhat optimistic that Harris can win but I agree with you that Dems do much better when they articulate a positive liberal economic agenda.They're still going to lose. I don't get why there aren't constant Harris ads talking about how a vote for her caps Medicare prescription drug copays at $2000 a year starting 2025 and that Trump will kill that ASAP if elected. Or that Trump has defunded Social Security in the past, ran before on making the defunding permanent, and will do it in 2025 if elected even if he is smart enough to not run on it this time. Because that kills Social Security, a longtime Republican wet dream. I don't understand why they don't run on those two issues and talk about them nonstop. It's how they won in 2012 despite Obama being a very weak incumbent at the time by correctly focusing on Romney and Ryan ending Medicare and pushing grandma off the cliff in their TV ads. Now they're going to lose because they're not focusing on these two critical issues and instead on how Trump is unqualified. That was a fucking losing strategy in 2016 and it will lose again in 2024.
fifyI'm still somewhat optimistic that Harris can win but I agree with you that Dems do much better when they articulate a positive social democratic economic agenda.
Our only hope is that sane people outnumber the cult. No matter how accurately you articulate how dangerous he is, you can't reach people in a cult.I'm still somewhat optimistic that Harris can win but I agree with you that Dems do much better when they articulate a positive liberal economic agenda.
Well...phew...I'm only several of those things...Not an evangical X-tian nor ultra-rich...so I guess I'm safe voting for Harris-Walz.Our only hope is that sane people outnumber the cult. No matter how accurately you articulate how dangerous he is, you can't reach people in a cult.
Unless a person can check ALL of these boxes;
How the fuck could anyone support him?
- White
- Heterosexual
- Misogynist
- Racist
- Xenophobic
- Homophobic
- Evangelical christian
- Ultrarich
Reaching people in Trump’s cult isn’t the goal. Getting people who generally agree with the liberal agenda off their asses and to the polls is the point. Apathy is what kills the Democrats at the polls.Our only hope is that sane people outnumber the cult. No matter how accurately you articulate how dangerous he is, you can't reach people in a cult.
Unless a person can check ALL of these boxes;
How the fuck could anyone support him?
- White
- Heterosexual
- Misogynist
- Racist
- Xenophobic
- Homophobic
- Evangelical christian
- Ultrarich
any fence sitter has issues right now that logic probably will not overcome.Like how could this “I want generals like Hitler had” not convince the jewish fence sitters, the orange monkey doesn’t support the Jews.
Someone is either a cult member, or a decent human being. Who the fuck are these fence sitters?any fence sitter has issues right now that logic probably will not overcome.
People who don't pay almost any attention to politics. There's lots of them!Someone is either a cult member, or a decent human being. Who the fuck are these fence sitters?
My wife is one of them…BUT, she will vote for Harris because.”Fuck Trump. We don’t want that asshole in office ever again!”People who don't pay almost any attention to politics. There's lots of them!
I don't agree with the liberal agenda at all but I'm stuck voting for them because the other option is the nazis and the liberals are significantly less bad. The liberal agenda instead of the party having a social democratic agenda is what kills the Democrats at the polls.Reaching people in Trump’s cult isn’t the goal. Getting people who generally agree with the liberal agenda off their asses and to the polls is the point. Apathy is what kills the Democrats at the polls.
I can agree with that. I’ve voted solid Democrat since my first election in 1972. (voted by absentee ballot since I was out of the country)I don't agree with the liberal agenda at all but I'm stuck voting for them because the other option is the nazis and the liberals are significantly less bad. The liberal agenda instead of being a social democratic party is what kills the Democrats at the polls.
Most people are like this. It’s an under appreciated fact that it’s very common for ‘moderate’ voters to not be moderate at all but to instead hold extreme positions on both sides.I can agree with that. I’ve voted solid Democrat since my first election in 1972. (voted by absentee ballot since I was out of the country)
However, I am NOT a liberal on most issues…in fact, I’m probably more conservative on some things than most Republicans…however, I have never voted for anyone with (R) attached to their name…and I don’t see that ever changing.
Like how could this “I want generals like Hitler had” not convince the jewish fence sitters, the orange monkey doesn’t support the Jews.