McDonald's E.coli outbreak

KLin

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Got it narrowed down to onion slivers and fresh beef patties on the quarter pounder.

I'm leaning towards those onions. I don't think they use them on any other burger except the quarter pounder and it's varieties.
 

Torn Mind

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Them quarter pounders are popular because they run mobile app deals ranging from 30-50 percent off.
 
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Torn Mind

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I have little doubt the one guy who died probably went to the hospital and got blown off as some antibiotic grubbing nutcase. Sounds crazy? Well no, it's because the pros really think that one, patients are fucking idiots with heathen-like mindsets, and two, antibiotic resistance matters more than dead people in the face of ambiguous symptoms that anyone can misdiagnosis(aka no lawsuit can be won).


Comments like these are believable examples of the how people are judged these days requesting antibiotics.






An assessment is just a bunch of questions, and with spoken words, a lot can be not uttered or blatantly ignored so the "judge" can rule in their own favor. And of course, there is no tracking once someone is sent home, so there is no "this dude just died from a disease treatable by antibiotics", so these pros still think they did good by sending someone with actual illness home with nothing.
 

sdifox

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I have little doubt the one guy who died probably went to the hospital and got blown off as some antibiotic grubbing nutcase. Sounds crazy? Well no, it's because the pros really think that one, patients are fucking idiots with heathen-like mindsets, and two, antibiotic resistance matters more than dead people in the face of ambiguous symptoms that anyone can misdiagnosis(aka no lawsuit can be won).


Comments like these are believable examples of the how people are judged these days requesting antibiotics.



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An assessment is just a bunch of questions, and with spoken words, a lot can be not uttered or blatantly ignored so the "judge" can rule in their own favor. And of course, there is no tracking once someone is sent home, so there is no "this dude just died from a disease treatable by antibiotics", so these pros still think they did good by sending someone with actual illness home with nothing.
I am surprised you survived this long with so many people out to get you
 

Torn Mind

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I am surprised you survived this long with so many people out to get you
One, I'm not talking about me. What exactly in the text does it say medical pros are out to get me? You have reading comprehension issues, it seems, and so does frog with his "love".

One person is dead due to a bacterial infection. Determining the cause of death requires analyzing all points of the chain of events.
What you don't get, is that medicine operates according to protocol, not a customized response to individual.

Two, the dealing with animals of commerce requires logic and evidence, not blind trust. If someone gets in a car accident, do you expect the other side to just settle on the spot and pay damages without any prompting or compulsion? That personal injury lawyers simply are a waste of resources and that it is unfathomable why they even exist?
 

sdifox

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One, I'm not talking about me. What exactly in the text does it say medical pros are out to get me? You have reading comprehension issues, it seems, and so does frog with his "love".

One person is dead due to a bacterial infection. Determining the cause of death requires analyzing all points of the chain of events.
What you don't get, is that medicine operates according to protocol, not a customized response to individual.

Two, the dealing with animals of commerce requires logic and evidence, not blind trust. If someone gets in a car accident, do you expect the other side to just settle on the spot and pay damages without any prompting or compulsion? That personal injury lawyers simply are a waste of resources and that it is unfathomable why they even exist?

It doesn't matter what the subject is, you always got a story where you or your relative gets shafted.
 
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nakedfrog

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One, I'm not talking about me. What exactly in the text does it say medical pros are out to get me? You have reading comprehension issues, it seems, and so does frog with his "love".

One person is dead due to a bacterial infection. Determining the cause of death requires analyzing all points of the chain of events.
What you don't get, is that medicine operates according to protocol, not a customized response to individual.

Two, the dealing with animals of commerce requires logic and evidence, not blind trust. If someone gets in a car accident, do you expect the other side to just settle on the spot and pay damages without any prompting or compulsion? That personal injury lawyers simply are a waste of resources and that it is unfathomable why they even exist?
I comprehend just fine. Doctors and dentists are all always out to maliciously fuck over patients, so are mechanics, and tenants are always villainous monsters fucking over landlords, etc.
Also: *her love.
 
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dank69

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I have little doubt the one guy who died probably went to the hospital and got blown off as some antibiotic grubbing nutcase. Sounds crazy? Well no, it's because the pros really think that one, patients are fucking idiots with heathen-like mindsets, and two, antibiotic resistance matters more than dead people in the face of ambiguous symptoms that anyone can misdiagnosis(aka no lawsuit can be won).


Comments like these are believable examples of the how people are judged these days requesting antibiotics.



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An assessment is just a bunch of questions, and with spoken words, a lot can be not uttered or blatantly ignored so the "judge" can rule in their own favor. And of course, there is no tracking once someone is sent home, so there is no "this dude just died from a disease treatable by antibiotics", so these pros still think they did good by sending someone with actual illness home with nothing.
I have no doubt that most patients are idiots, so at least consider the providers' perspectives on that. The average patient does not know the difference between a virus and bacteria.
 
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WelshBloke

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I have little doubt the one guy who died probably went to the hospital and got blown off as some antibiotic grubbing nutcase. Sounds crazy? Well no, it's because the pros really think that one, patients are fucking idiots with heathen-like mindsets, and two, antibiotic resistance matters more than dead people in the face of ambiguous symptoms that anyone can misdiagnosis(aka no lawsuit can be won).


Comments like these are believable examples of the how people are judged these days requesting antibiotics.



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An assessment is just a bunch of questions, and with spoken words, a lot can be not uttered or blatantly ignored so the "judge" can rule in their own favor. And of course, there is no tracking once someone is sent home, so there is no "this dude just died from a disease treatable by antibiotics", so these pros still think they did good by sending someone with actual illness home with nothing.
A) antibiotics aren't that great for that sort of e coli
B) there's a hell of a lot of assumptions in your post there!
 

manly

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Had a deluxe QPC for lunch. If this is my last post ever, then you'll know what happened.
 

dullard

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And of course, there is no tracking once someone is sent home, so there is no "this dude just died from a disease treatable by antibiotics", so these pros still think they did good by sending someone with actual illness home with nothing.
This particular E coli strain is not easily treated with antibiotics. It has been shown in studies that 100% of the samples were resistant to AT LEAST 2 common antibiotics. And nearly 30% were resistant to 4 common antibiotics. So, by the time you go through multiple different antibiotics, it is likely too late.

And the antibiotics actually do harm. When they kill off the good bacteria, it leaves the antibiotic resistant E coli free rein to spread in your body.

Antibiotics are great. But, they aren't a panacea and need to be used with proper judgement, not just throw them at every problem.
 
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WilliamM2

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I have no doubt that most patients are idiots, so at least consider the providers' perspectives on that. The average patient does not know the difference between a virus and bacteria.
Very true. Every time my previous boss caught a cold (often) he would go to the doctor and demand antibiotics. Doctor always gave in too.

There was no reasoning with him, he knew everything about everything...
 
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