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trenchfoot

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Insane Truth by Trump. So much for the party of free speech. I really can't believe JD Vance had the gal to whine about censorship at the debate. @Greenman you cool with Trump jailing people for donating to Harris?

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Well wad'da ya know, sounds a lot like what Trump, his fake electors and the people who ran that travesty of justice got handed and now Trump's scheme is to get payback for something that's not going to happen except in his head. Add to that how even as he tries to accuse his enemies of the same crimes that he and his cronies committed, his operatives across the nation are planning to sow chaos, discontent and confusion as a precursor for deploying The Big Lie v. 2.0.

It would make for a really cool SNL skit that didn't need to re-write a single thing about it, yet what Trump and the Republican party is scheming is defeating what has been America's successful system of gov't. since it's inception and replacing it with himself as The Omnipotent Transcendent One.

And seeing as if Trump's minions have already been conditioned to ignore his vile words and deeds, they'll fit right in and offer praises and their life savings to Trump when screws them over by taxing the living shit out of them and the rest of us while reneging on his hollow promises to them (again) and dutifully kowtowing to his master sensei in the Kremlin.

How millions of working class conservatives can be so clueless as to how they are going to be fucked over so bad once Trump gets his return to the White House and won't need their votes anymore.
 

jdubs03

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And after all of that, they’d still vote for him again.

I honestly don’t know what it would take for these people not to vote for him, other than him not existing anymore. I was thinking something to akin to the Great Depression but even then they probably would just blame the Democrats.
 

brycejones

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I mean, of course that's true. But TX still had 46.5% for Biden.

I'm just saying that people treat Texas like it's Utah or Oklahoma. It's not.

We have a huge Dem base here, there is potential, and the winds seem to be shifting.
How much do dems need to win by to take the legislature away? I assume the partisan gerrymander is brutal.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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And after all of that, they’d still vote for him again.

I honestly don’t know what it would take for these people not to vote for him, other than him not existing anymore. I was thinking something to akin to the Great Depression but even then they probably would just blame the Democrats.

They're the eternal victimized class of America. In that role, they can blame their tormenters (that's us, their fellow Americans believe it or not) for every stupid nonsensical thing they do like voting for a convicted felon, tax cheat and adulterating thief of top secret gov't documents.

In that role, he and they are supposed to be able to defend themselves by gerrymandering themselves into safety and suppressing their enemy's ability to vote against them. Yet due to these ploys not being effective enough to ensure their ability to dictate terms to their "enemies from within", they've gone one step further and decided that the Constitution and the Rule of Law is not working in their favor so that needs to be thrown out along with the trash that's poisoning the blood of the nation.

Ergo, what better way than to finish the coup they started back in 2020 so they can prop up that narcissistic convicted felon of theirs as their Dictator-in-Chief.
 

MrSquished

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Not good news in AZ

 

Indus

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Not good news in AZ


Yeah that would explain why Trump's not bothering going to AZ.
 

gothuevos

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Not good news in AZ

Foolish to think that BOTH Arizona and GA would go blue two cycles in a row. Pick one. Doesn't look like it will be AZ.
 

MrSquished

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Foolish to think that BOTH Arizona and GA would go blue two cycles in a row. Pick one. Doesn't look like it will be AZ.
Yes I don't think she's in trouble electorally but this win needs to be as decisive as possible due to the fact that we know the Republicans will try to overthrow the election.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Yes I don't think she's in trouble electorally but this win needs to be as decisive as possible due to the fact that we know the Republicans will try to overthrow the election.
If there's a presumption that Republicans will attempt to bypass the election, I'm not sure how winning harder electorally will help that.
 

outriding

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K1052

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Not good news in AZ


The explosion of non-partisan voter registration in AZ and NV has dramatically increased the difficulty in reading the D-R voter registration gap and accurately intuiting its impact on an election.





However NP registration is roaring in younger voters and we do know which way most of them are inclined.


 

Dave_5k

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How much do dems need to win by to take the legislature away? I assume the partisan gerrymander is brutal.
2022 TX voting: 52% R - 46% D, to gain the R's 57% of TX legislature seats (86 of the 150). So Dems would need to pick up 12 seats to take control.
- Only 3 Republican seats were within 10%
- Another 3 were within 12%
- To get to 12 seats would require a 17% swing (or +8.5 D / -8.5 R)

Texas isn't nearly as badly gerrymandered as many other states. Instead, they heavily rig who is allowed to vote via the voter registration process...
 

MrSquished

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If there's a presumption that Republicans will attempt to bypass the election, I'm not sure how winning harder electorally will help that.
Why not? They would potentially have to try to overthrow the election on more fronts. And overall, it absolutely makes more sense for the bigger and more dramatic Kamala win we have, the better. I have zero idea why you think a narrow win is the same difference.
 

Amused

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lol. I checked it like a year ago

Mine has been lame for the last 3 years. Dealing with a parathyroid issue and got that fixed now this year 2 broken bones


Oh man, that sucks! I know how that is, I had a bad couple of years with foot surgeries and vision problems. Osteoarthritis is a bitch. I had one winter where my ski boots were the only comfortable shoes because I had them fitted/formed to relieve the pressure on the bone spurs on the tops of my big toe knuckles. That spring I had surgery to remove them and was out for the summer.

Looks like you fell on your hands and elbows? OUCH!!! That's a LOT of hardware! Is it healing well?

I laid off for a bit. And when I got back into it I just didn't use Strava. Started on Strava again in July. My first ride on Strava in July was kinda hilarious because I was already in shape again and broke about 40 of my previous segment records on my route.

One of the reasons I love CA is because of hills AND the coastal Mediterranean weather. It's cycling heaven here. The downside is I'm heavy (200lbs), and hills grind chains like crazy. I'm only getting about 1000-1500 miles on Ultegra chains.

Side note: Being a cyclist has made me appreciate EV cars so much more. It's nice to not inhale exhaust fumes on the road.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Why not? They would potentially have to try to overthrow the election on more fronts. And overall, it absolutely makes more sense for the bigger and more dramatic Kamala win we have, the better. I have zero idea why you think a narrow win is the same difference.
Right, but if they've found an angle to bypass a democratic win in one place, I don't know why that wouldn't work everywhere at once.
 

K1052

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That would be an increase in (I)s without the notable decrease in (D)s.

There is some switching happening also but kind of pales in comparison to the organic rise in NP. People also attrit from the rolls also due to moving, deaths, etc. Voters switching partisan registration is also usually a lagging indicator from how they have been already voting. D's flipping R have probably already voted for Rs a cycle or two and vice versa.
 
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