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BoomerD

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Looks like Trump's Rogan appearance was a bust. Three hours of his usual rambling that even Rogan got tired of. Totally worth it to screw up a Michigan appearance lol.
Over at TFNN, it’s being said that the Rogan interview is the final nail in Kamala’s coffin, and talking about how great Trump did.
 
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manly

Lifer
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There is some switching happening also but kind of pales in comparison to the organic rise in NP. People also attrit from the rolls also due to moving, deaths, etc. Voters switching partisan registration is also usually a lagging indicator from how they have been already voting. D's flipping R have probably already voted for Rs a cycle or two and vice versa.
I think I've always been registered as No Party Preference. In reality, I've only ever voted for (R) twice across all elections and both were symbolic votes: once for Lt. Gov and once for House Rep. The last and only time I could have voted (R) for president was 1996, but I don't remember voting prior to 2000.

Obviously I'm different from a lot of the more recent NPP registered voters, but Dems have a bit of a branding/messaging problem as well (mainly thanks to the GQP).

This is conjecture on my part, but the many Californians who have moved to purple states are probably more moderate than partisan, on average.
 

iRONic

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Another term resurrected from the past: anticipatory obedience:

Veteran journalists and media critics are using a very different phrase to describe Soon-Shiong’s and Bezos’s choice: they’re saying the two billionaires, among the richest men on the entire globe, are performing “anticipatory obedience” to Donald Trump.

 

K1052

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Over at TFNN, it’s being said that the Rogan interview is the final nail in Kamala’s coffin, and talking about how great Trump did.

I think the biggest problem is that it's boring. Just a collection of random non-specific stories he's half forgotten and nonsense election loss denial claims that even Rogan was giving him a hard time about. Trump has a habit of mostly just saying the same stuff over and over which after 9 years isn't very interesting anymore.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Lol "the weave" (also known as diminished capacity) in action:

Rogan lives and breathes UFC, so he'd certainly know who this 14-1 fighter was. Off the top of my head, it's bogus.

I realize the Faux News crowd will watch the same shiz day after day, but WTF wants to listen to DJT bloviate for 3 straight hours? 🤮
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I'm glad to see MAGA scum waste their time waiting for their bloviated piece of shit fascist dream king and then just leave. Wasting their evenings.

I wish so much more inconvenience for them. Nothing good upon them at all.
They really do need to find some better things to do with their lives.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Just had Willie Nelson out. Sang Don’t Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys and On The Road Again.

Also had about 20 OBGYNSs come out and tell their story about Roe.

We are doing the wave now while waiting for the next speaker.
Got into Willie recently, his Stardust album, it holds up nicely.

Also plugging Kamala now, superstar musicians:

Linda Ronstadt
Taylor Swift
Bruce Springsteen
Beyoncé
Stevie Wonder

Who did I forget?
 
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jdubs03

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I used to find it funny how North Korean state media would lavish the Kim Jongs with all the praise in the world. It it was quite entertaining just for how silly it was. Fox “news“ is on their level now.

I didn’t watch the Joe Rogan episode because I’m not gonna sit there and listen to that dumb ass for that long or any amount of time. But, I did see a clip of Rogan was laughing at him because Trump was going back-and-forth on winning and losing the election.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Trump is late for his Novi, MI rally by an hour and his plane just landed at DTW. How the F do you manage to be late there flying from Traverse City.
 

pmv

Lifer
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I've always thought that voting with your pocketbook in mind is low-brow. Whether you're a poor slob or a rich bastard.

I can't agree.

Economic self-interest is one of the main legitimate reasons for deciding who to vote for. Sure, there are other forms of self-interest that can apply, not everything is about pure economics (or, equivalently, class isn't the only thing that divides people and gives them conflicting self-interests), but economic/class identity is a major one.

All else being equal, though, wealthy people should vote for the candidate that represents the interests of the wealthy, working-class people should vote for the one who best represents their interests.

Certainly better than deciding your vote based on crazy conspiracy theories or whether you like a candidate's hairstyle, or something.
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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Looks like Trump's Rogan appearance was a bust. Three hours of his usual rambling that even Rogan got tired of. Totally worth it to screw up a Michigan appearance lol.
How was it screwed up? He danced and played Ava Maria, what more could anyone dream for?
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Insane Truth by Trump. So much for the party of free speech. I really can't believe JD Vance had the gal to whine about censorship at the debate. @Greenman you cool with Trump jailing people for donating to Harris?

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Trump did not write that. He probably wrote a screed that was rewritten by a cohort underling. He then read it and changed a word or two. Donald Trump is IMO the worst traitor in American history. His demise will be widely celebrated, hopefully very very soon.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Trump is late for his Novi, MI rally by an hour and his plane just landed at DTW. How the F do you manage to be late there flying from Traverse City.

When you don’t actually care about the people whose vote you are trying to get, it’s easy to be “late”.
 

coldmeat

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Him being late just makes them like him more. It just reinforces their belief that he's the most important. It's just the natural order that people like them wait on him, just like the people beneath them should wait on them.
 
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K1052

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When you don’t actually care about the people whose vote you are trying to get, it’s easy to be “late”.

I mean just from a selfish perspective if you have more than one event on a day (like he does today) then making that day a lot longer for no reason seems moronic. He's supposed to be in PA at a rally in under four hours and he just went on stage in MI.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Another term resurrected from the past: anticipatory obedience:

Veteran journalists and media critics are using a very different phrase to describe Soon-Shiong’s and Bezos’s choice: they’re saying the two billionaires, among the richest men on the entire globe, are performing “anticipatory obedience” to Donald Trump.

I've been suspecting this. This is really, really bad.
 
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