Question Types of Storage you use

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manly

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SF Muni is still using 5.25 inch floppy disks!

San Francisco to pay $212 million to end reliance on 5.25-inch floppy disks

Muni Metro also plans to ditch super-slow loop cable communication system.

arstechnica.com

 

Seba

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• #52

BoomerD said:

I have 3 NVMe drives, (1) 2TB and (2) 1TB drives...and a 2TB WD Black spinner.

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Brainonska511

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I actually put a 1TB HDD back in my desktop the other day. Had it sitting around in a drawer, and wanted a spot to dump some backups of Blu-rays I had ripped to my HTPC.

 

kschendel

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• #54

manly said:

SF Muni is still using 5.25 inch floppy disks!

San Francisco to pay $212 million to end reliance on 5.25-inch floppy disks

Muni Metro also plans to ditch super-slow loop cable communication system.

arstechnica.com

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To be fair, it's not like they are running a modern system off of floppies. The entire train control setup is ancient, and the $212 mil price tag includes overhauling pretty much the entire thing, including comms, sensors, actuators, the lot.

 

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manly

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kschendel said:

To be fair, it's not like they are running a modern system off of floppies. The entire train control setup is ancient, and the $212 mil price tag includes overhauling pretty much the entire thing, including comms, sensors, actuators, the lot.

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The wild part is that the current system was installed in 1998 , and the software is loaded from floppy disks every morning. I realize this is kind of how government IT goes, but by the mid 1990s, 5.25 inch floppies were already obsolete.
Like it sorta makes sense why our ancient ICBMs still relied on 8-inch floppies in 2017 (not anymore), but WTF was Muni thinking in 1993? Also remember this overlaps with the original Internet boom, so it's especially ironic. Imagine if you were building a new mission critical system today with SATA I hard disks and 802.11b WiFi. You'd get laughed out of the room.

Finally, although you're probably right, the $212M price tag isn't the all-in price. I can't tell what exactly costs what, but the total price tag including other system upgrades is $700M. I read the reporting a couple times, and it's vague-ish what you're getting for $212M.

 

lopri

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I like the M.2 format at first and I guess I still do, but more and more I feel like it is an inconvenience and inefficient use of resources to use local disks. In the future I want to have one or two OS disks in the system and move everything else to a 10 GbE NAS.

 

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BoomerD

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Seba said:

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Duu-ude..Took me a bit to figure out what this meant. (yes, I recognized the cat, just not what you meant...till I back-tracked.)

 

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mikeymikec

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BoomerD said:

Answered above.

Must have been a glitch in the matrix?

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I live in fear of starting a thread (or sending a question to my friends on a mailing list) with a question I asked a year or so ago of some ongoing question that I grapple with

 

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jamesdsimone

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HDD's in all my storage servers. I have one computer with an NVMe boot drive and frankly I don't see any significant speed benefit over SSD's. NVMe drives are more trouble than they are worth. I don't see any boot time advantage since most of the time is taken up posting. I have a Dell 9020 with a generic 1TB SSD and that is the fastest. It takes about 15 seconds from power button to desktop. I have changed over to SSD's for boot drive/SSD for gaming/HDD for bulk storage.

 

Seba

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You compare the time it takes to transfer large files or lots of small files. Not the time it takes to boot.

 

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jamesdsimone

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Seba said:

You compare the time it takes to transfer large files or lots of small files. Not the time it takes to boot.

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That's not really a bag issue. If I'm transferring a lot of files I do it with a computer I'm not doing anything else with.

 

nOOky

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I have three systems available to use. My main desktop has 2 NVME SSD's, 2 SATA SSD's and 2 7,200 HDD's for storage. Once in a while I copy my files over to a secondary desktop with 2 NVME SSD's, 2 SATA SSD's, and one 10,000 rpm 74 gig Raptor. My third system isn't plugged in, but the box sits in my desk and it has an optical drive for burning or ripping disks, 1 NVME SSD, 2 HDD's, and 1 SATA SSD.

I backup everything regularly on my main PC and copy that to an external USB drive, and I also copy my files to the secondary desktop. Unless my house is nuked or burned to a crisp by an unexpected solar event, I should be able to recover all my pictures and files I wish to save forever.