Damn. Lincoln Project hitting hard on this one.

akugami

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And while I agree with it, hardcore Magats don't give a shit.

I do agree. VOTE. Especially younger men and women in universities and colleges. This affects you by a crap ton. One of the biggest reasons Biden won last time was because of the youth vote movement. Tell your younger friends, their votes matter.
 

eelw

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And while I agree with it, hardcore Magats don't give a shit.

I do agree. VOTE. Especially younger men and women in universities and colleges. This affects you by a crap ton. One of the biggest reasons Biden won last time was because of the youth vote movement. Tell your younger friends, their votes matter.
But that’s the problem with this new crop of first time voters, they didn’t experience how incompetent he was as POTUS.
 

Fenixgoon

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But that’s the problem with this new crop of first time voters, they didn’t experience how incompetent he was as POTUS.
disagree. they've experienced covid. they may have had brothers and sisters, parents and grandparents, relatives, or friends die of covid. they heard JD Vance call school shootings a fact of life. some of them may have lost a friend, a sibling, or a teacher to a school shooter. and they almost certainly have practiced active shooter drills in school. they already know what republican incompetence is like.
 

akugami

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But that’s the problem with this new crop of first time voters, they didn’t experience how incompetent he was as POTUS.

I disagree. I'm not saying Biden was a great president. But he was a hell of a lot better than Trump. Biden has gotten a lot more accomplished than Trump.

Biden has been working to try to better everyone's lives, especially those trying to get a better education, which the republicans have been fighting him on tooth and nail. Younger voters need to understand that republicans are the ones pissing in their cereals, and the only way for things to get better for them is to vote against Trump, and those of his ilk.
 
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HomerJS

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How does Trump get away with "are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

Do people remember what was going on 4 years ago?
 
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Perknose

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How does Trump get away with "are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

Do people remember what was going on 4 years ago?
All they "remember" is that gas and grocery prices were low at the end of Trump's presidency, not how or why or any fucking thing else. And they feel there were probably fewer transgender people, too. They're not sure, but it's a feeling, you know?
 

fskimospy

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How does Trump get away with "are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

Do people remember what was going on 4 years ago?
A very specific and clear part of Trump's campaign message is that someone other than him was president in 2020.
 

Zorba

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Do the Lincoln project ads actually get any reach? This could maybe be effective to solve people, but I'm guessing 98% of the views will come from people already voting for Harris.
 
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Do the Lincoln project ads actually get any reach? This could maybe be effective to solve people, but I'm guessing 98% of the views will come from people already voting for Harris.
Probably through social media. They're making them en masse to try and break through the bubbles produced by people's algorithms. Get lots of engagement and reshares, and it could be helpful to reaching some.
 

eelw

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How does Trump get away with "are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

Do people remember what was going on 4 years ago?
This is my point about first time voters not knowing what happen. Low information adults are too dumb to remember. But I’ll excuse these 14 year olds not knowing much about Jan 6
 

BoomerD

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This is my point about first time voters not knowing what happen. Low information adults are too dumb to remember. But I’ll excuse these 14 year olds not knowing much about Jan 6
The sad thing is that far too many people DO remember…and still support the Mango Mussolini.
 

SteveGrabowski

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How does Trump get away with "are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

Do people remember what was going on 4 years ago?
Ah yes four years ago was fucking amazing


Lost my closest friend from childhood (saddest funeral ever when his 3 year-old daughter told us to quiet down cuz daddy's sleeping), a cousin in law, and a couple of older family friends to the virus that nazi piece of shit treated like a PR problem.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I've already offered my two-cents on the "Great Again" nonsense. It amazes me, watching focus groups and citizen-on-the-street interviews, how they nit-pick about their pet issues like "the economy" and "inflation". We actually got through four years of Trump's incompetence -- one time, and basic governance and responsible stewardship has survived. Why do the smorgasbord voters think it necessary that everything else should be "perfect", while ignoring the problem of Rule of Law and holding a criminal accountable for serious crimes? And they're ignorant enough to think the matter of the stolen documents or even the insurrection isn't reason enough to put their worries there and stop fretting about the price of filet mignon.

My grandfather was the salt-of-the-earth. He was a Republican before he died in 1953. He walked to work through the Depression and through The War in bib-overalls, carrying a lunch-pail. I know he's rolling in his grave if he can see this election campaign. He would never, ever have voted for a venal, ignorant fascist like Trump. He was a Greatest Generation Parent.

This current crop of people supporting Trump would have to climb a ladder just to polish Pappy's shoes, he was so great in comparison.

The stress of seeing this mob throw their tantrums, or to see the obscenity of the MSG rally days ago, makes me hope to join my ancestors. They were Americans with a capital A. The MAGA haven't got the jing. It is my own shortcoming that I no longer have the patience to endure sharing My Country with any of them.
 
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