MarkPost posted new record here with DDR5-8200! http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ox-justins-and-pspdfkit.2618297/post-41326846FCLK is still a limiting factor and 2:1 UCLK, there's hardly any gain to be found even in niche benchmark scenarios.
1-2% improvement still constitutes "hardly any gain".MarkPost posted new record here with DDR5-8200! http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ox-justins-and-pspdfkit.2618297/post-41326846
amd need to change the io die to support cudimm, I think need to wait till zen6.Next year maybe 9950X3D reviews come out with DDR5-9600 CUDIMM benchmarks. AMD has time!
Agreed. RAM tuning has its merits, but it's a hard sell for me if I could have upgraded to a whole new tier of CPU for the same added price as the more expensive, more exotic RAM.Why are you want to use cudimm on zen5? On zen5 cudimm only going to work at bypass mode, the ckd is not working. It’s wasting money, the first cudimm will cost like 400usd.
RAM tuning is so annoying to me that I just don't tune. Too many little buttons and cifers.Agreed. RAM tuning has its merits, but it's a hard sell for me if I could have upgraded to a whole new tier of CPU for the same added price as the more expensive, more exotic RAM.
Luckily someone like buildzoid make guides where you can simply put in his numbers and make them work with your system if you have the same memory-kit (die) and platform, which makes it super easy. But besides that, I don't tune my memory either.RAM tuning is so annoying to me that I just don't tune. Too many little buttons and cifers.
A one button push does it all would be cool lol.
Yeah, some sort of AI tuner that you leave running overnight and it sets values and tests and reboots all by itself and in the morning, you reap the fruits of its hard work.A one button push does it all would be cool lol.
amd need to change the io die to support cudimm, I think need to wait till zen6.
And I think the final form of cudimm should be camm2, zen6 should be using it.
Nah, no way ...My original thought was that it would require a new IO die as well, however some have said that both Zen 4 and Zen 5 have the capability, but lack the software, par for the course with AMD, if true, so I felt I would bring both items up here. 🤣
zen4 and zen5 can use cudimm, but it’s only going to work at bypass mode. Basically it will become a udimm.🤣totally wasting money.My original thought was that it would require a new IO die as well, however some have said that both Zen 4 and Zen 5 have the capability, but lack the software, par for the course with AMD, if true, so I felt I would bring both items up here. 🤣
Next year maybe 9950X3D reviews come out with DDR5-9600 CUDIMM benchmarks. AMD has time!
No. There's room for speculating about 9800X3D, 9950X3D, Strix Halo, Kraken, etc yetGiven Zen5 is now released with a wealth of µArch information about it isn't a speculation thread now kind of moot?
zen4 and zen5 can use cudimm, but it’s only going to work at bypass mode. Basically it will become a udimm.🤣totally wasting money.
Now only ARL can fully support cudimm, but ARL’s gaming performance is suck. So, no point to spend money on it too.🤣
Yeah, some sort of AI tuner that you leave running overnight and it sets values and tests and reboots all by itself and in the morning, you reap the fruits of its hard work.
The 3D can't do anything if the data is too big for its cache. That's where fast RAM helps.Why? Isn't one of the 3D advantages that you get higher performance even with not that fast RAM?
I think amd has something extra with the those parts.Next year maybe 9950X3D reviews come out with DDR5-9600 CUDIMM benchmarks. AMD has time!
So what you are basically saying is CUDIMM is RDRAM redux, with only supporting platform performing badly and needing CUDIMM to perform anywhere near decently, while the competition that performs better doesn't need one.With the volume of ARL shipping (likely miniscule), it is hard to see how this memory standard can become a success. High price and almost no demand....
If you think a 30$ price hike is too much for unrivaled #1 gaming performance, i guess you can wait 1 or 2 years for it to drop below 400$, same as with the 7800X3D, which btw have been selling like hot cakes from its very release.
I feel bad for the crowd waiting for new XDD!
I don't get it - Nvidia raises prices by hundreds of dollars every generation and they get totally sold out everywhere, but AMD adding $30 to the price of what appears to be the best gaming CPU around is the end of the world?
I feel bad for the crowd waiting for new XDD!
Exactly. It's pointless. Could help on standard zen if other bottlenecks were removed but it's also pointless there with those bottlenecks. It's a similar argument to wanting more cores on the mainstream platform while ignoring the bandwidth bottlenecks. All pointless (given other constraints)Why? Isn't one of the 3D advantages that you get higher performance even with not that fast RAM?
Except it doesn't because of other bandwidth limitations and infinity fabric. It doesn't really help until those things are addressedThe 3D can't do anything if the data is too big for its cache. That's where fast RAM helps.