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Muse

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I'm so hoping you gays and gals don't fuck this up..... Being America lite (Australia) I don't know if I can take 4 more years of news reports about insane shit trump did.

Also he would probably fuck up the geo political situation in south East Asia......
It's your damn nation, I encourage you to ignore Trump any time you care to. I plan to, just hope he ain't POTUS, that makes it tough... if he's healthy. Darn good chance he won't be for long. Vance would be annoying, but it's hard for me to imagine anyone being as annoying as Trump.
 

Amol S.

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Sorry, was busy and thus did not post here for almost half a month. I have a lot to talk about in this election. So sorry for the long list of quotations.

Why does the Trump campaign struggle with female voters? I guess we will never know.

It's not just because of his weird rhetoric when he talks about women, its also about how he talks weird about girls. Remember how he once said he would have married a kid or was that Ivanka?? Either way, I have something to say about this in another post that will be following.

Election related news, so dropping it here
When I saw this, and the news that followed that they got an image of the arsonists car, the first thing that went thru my mind was that I would not be surprised if the car belonged to a Trump campaign staff member. It would have been the biggest proof against Trump. Unfortunately it was some random person.
Which means they knew he was going to call Purrto Rico garbage. That also infers the people are garbage.
Trump is basically trying to get the support from the anti-immigration supporters. Furthermore, he does not support statehood of Puerto Rico, and thus is trying to ingrain that into his supporters.
Joseph McCarthy->Roy Cohn->Donald Trump.

A literal straight, non-interrupted line.
You forgot to add George Wallace between Roy and Trump. As these 4 individuals were also racists.
decided to take a peek at Elon's feed to see what kind of stupidity he was posting and was not at all disappointed lol

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It's sad to see how America's most wealthy individual has either started to loose their marbles, or does not know that those polls do not include the independent voters. There are a lot of independent voters in NJ, and it is them that makes NJ a blue state.
surprise, surprise they are (mostly) voting for Trump.




Not to say that shit won't hit the fan (it probably will)*, but IIRC Trump got bitch slapped hard by ALL the courts in late 2020.
But I understand your point, we're kinda fucked if it goes all the way up to SCROTUS.

* The chances of the presidential election being called within a day seem extremely low. So expect the GQP to do everything, and then some, to overturn the election if they've lost.
I disagree with the election not being called by Thursday. There is a high chance it would considering that PA and MI have above 50% of Democrats in early voting, and according to 2022 models, the election day votes did somewhat resemble the early voting. Thus Harris won PA and MI in my opinion.
Adams is a crook fishing for a possible pardon. He knows Kam won't do it, so he's going after the orange mushroom.
I am telling you, Adams is pulling all the stops and levers he can to get out the situation he is in. I spoke with someone recently, who actually is going to be working as a poll worker, and they said that 2 of the ballot proposals people in the city will be voting on, will give more power to Adams in regards to laws and money. They also told me their sister works for the NYPD, and the NYPD union suggests their members be Republicans, thus they claimed that Adams is in fact a DINO (Democrat in name only).
On a side note, I think that after the pardon, he might actually ask Trump to make him the US ambassador to Turkey.
No, wrong again! Trump deports illegals!

😂

I think it was just McCain he was talking about, right? Mccain is a terrible person. Was a terrible person. Also he brought out military back from the dead after his first term, after Obama (another socialist) tried so desperately for 8 years to weaken it. So clearly using the draft dodging excuse doesn't hold water.
You need a reality check. McCain was a very good person, he in fact saved Medicare, Medicaid, and SS. These three items would have been broke by now had Trump's replacement bill had passed. McCain actually cared for army members, and in fact was able to be communicative across the aisle compared to other people in the senate that just spread propaganda or bail to Cancun when something bad happens.
Wonder how bad inflation was when Trump was president? The way you speak about him sure seems to me like you are embracing the mainstream media narrative. Think outside the box, Trump could have retired years ago, and lived out the rest of his life with supreme wealth and a beautiful family without a care in the world. He didn't need this. But he stood up to the globalists..


Instead he chose to fight for little people. He stood up to bug business and restored stability to the middle class again. He was working on removing debt and bringing financial stability to the average everyday worker.

He also worked to secure our southern border where millions of illegals have entered over the past 3.5 years.

With all due respect, you have to be an independent thinker, and now more than ever, if you keep spoon feeding the media lies you won't be able to determine fact from fiction.
Trump fought against "bug business"??? Hmmmm. Storm-Chaser might have a point here as after Trump got first elected, I noticed an increase in roach and (rat/subway rat) sightings and in the news here in New York City. /Sarcasm
In all seriousness and honesty, tax-cuts the way it was implemented had issues as there was no guarantee it would work and help the middle or lower class. On average it did nothing to increase the wages of employees at corporations, as corporations were not required to increase the salary or higher more employees with any savings they make from the tax cuts. Rather the companies could, and many did, just pocketed the savings that were created by tax cuts.
 
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Muse

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So, the little peckerwood, who isn't even old enough to vote, walked away from an altercation with a male Harris supporter, then decided to hit a 70 year old woman.

Sounds about right for these chickenshit wannabe fascists.

MARTIN COUNTY

Teenager wearing Trump shirt charged with punching Harris supporter, 70​

Wicker Perlis
Treasure Coast Newspapers




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STUART — With election day just three days away, a teenager and apparent supporter of former President Donald Trump was arrested here Saturday at a rally in support of Vice President Kamala Harris and charged with punching a 70-year-old woman in the stomach.
A 17-year-old boy — wearing a T-shirt featuring an image of Trump raising his middle finger in front of an American flag background — punched the Harris supporter, knocking her off her feet, according to police and the woman, Stuart resident Kathleen Tomasko.
The 17-year-old was arrested once police, hired by the event organizers, arrived on the scene at the north end of the Roosevelt Bridge on U.S. 1. He was charged with battery on a person 65 years of age or over, according to Stuart Police Department spokesperson Brian Bossio.
"Several people pointed out a male who was walking away from the area as someone who battered or struck a woman. I was able to go get the guy, walk him over to the car and detain him," Bossio said.


According to witnesses, Bossio said, the 17-year-old was walking away from a separate altercation with a male Harris supporter when he struck Tomasko and knocked her to the ground.
Tomasko said she did nothing to provoke the 17-year-old and she did not hear him say anything to her. In fact, she didn't even see him coming, she said.
"I'm standing there and people are moving and this kid just turned around and he punched me. I don't know where he came from," Tomasko said. "He punched me in the gut and knocked me on the ground, and I fell back and hit the ground. Thank goodness the two ladies were behind me so I didn't hit my head."
While Tomasko initially declined to go to the hospital, she said Saturday afternoon that she may need to because of her hip hitting the ground when she fell.
The boy who punched her was one of four that Tomasko saw earlier during the rally.
"There were these four boys that were, you know, Trumpers, and it's a Harris rally," Tomasko said. "So they were going back and forth and antagonizing people, and our people were antagonizing them, I guess."
The rally, called by supporters "Rally on the Bridge," was part of the nationwide Women's March, and was specifically in support of Harris and Amendment 4, a ballot measure that would put protections for abortion rights in Florida's state constitution.
Tomasko said she has been attending political events for decades, but has never experienced anything like this.
"My girlfriend called me from Massachusetts and said 'Kathy, I can't believe, we've done rallies like this for how many years and nothing like this ever happens,'" Tomasko said.
There were no other arrests or incidents of violence reported at the event, Bossio said.
Wicker Perlis is TCPalm's Watchdog Reporter for St. Lucie County. You can reach him at wicker.perlis@tcpalm.com.
 

Amol S.

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Now to talk about what I wanted to say, in regards to why Trump is loosing support from the female voters. It is because Trump thinks of women as individuals who should only be at home, wearing turtleneck t-shirts only, and taking care of kids. In short, Trump vision of women in America is basically a house wife.

I will be honest here and say that at the beginning of this month I was actually was not sure of voting this election, as I was going to busy that day, and I think I said here that it would require me paying an extra subway fare to get to the early voting location. Another reason was because I felt it would be a waste of time as New York would obviously go to Harris and was not a swing state in any way.

HOWEVER THAT CHANGED WHEN I SAW SOMETHING. Or should I say I saw someone experience a misogynist attack by a Trumpanzee. They were 100% a Trumpanzee as they had Trump paraphernalia on them.

The incident occured earlier this month around the time when the comic con was in NYC this month. I basically saw this women in a cosplay costume on the subway platform, probably going to the comic-con. They got a Wendys cup thrown at them from a Trumpanzee who screamed "progressive garbage". I never thought Trumpanzees would go to this extent.

These Trumpanzees that are thinking of women as servents, and are the same type of people like Greenman, Storm-chaser or that s0mE0nE. I don't remember which one posted this about them forbiding their daughter from wearing crop-tops as it is too revealing. These Trumpanzees and Trump want to even controll what women should even be able to wear.

From that point on ward I dicided that I will vote on this election day and every election onwards no matter what.
 

JTsyo

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BoomerD

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MARTIN COUNTY

Teenager wearing Trump shirt charged with punching Harris supporter, 70​

Wicker Perlis
Treasure Coast Newspapers




0:14
1:19




STUART — With election day just three days away, a teenager and apparent supporter of former President Donald Trump was arrested here Saturday at a rally in support of Vice President Kamala Harris and charged with punching a 70-year-old woman in the stomach.
A 17-year-old boy — wearing a T-shirt featuring an image of Trump raising his middle finger in front of an American flag background — punched the Harris supporter, knocking her off her feet, according to police and the woman, Stuart resident Kathleen Tomasko.
The 17-year-old was arrested once police, hired by the event organizers, arrived on the scene at the north end of the Roosevelt Bridge on U.S. 1. He was charged with battery on a person 65 years of age or over, according to Stuart Police Department spokesperson Brian Bossio.
"Several people pointed out a male who was walking away from the area as someone who battered or struck a woman. I was able to go get the guy, walk him over to the car and detain him," Bossio said.


According to witnesses, Bossio said, the 17-year-old was walking away from a separate altercation with a male Harris supporter when he struck Tomasko and knocked her to the ground.
Tomasko said she did nothing to provoke the 17-year-old and she did not hear him say anything to her. In fact, she didn't even see him coming, she said.
"I'm standing there and people are moving and this kid just turned around and he punched me. I don't know where he came from," Tomasko said. "He punched me in the gut and knocked me on the ground, and I fell back and hit the ground. Thank goodness the two ladies were behind me so I didn't hit my head."
While Tomasko initially declined to go to the hospital, she said Saturday afternoon that she may need to because of her hip hitting the ground when she fell.
The boy who punched her was one of four that Tomasko saw earlier during the rally.
"There were these four boys that were, you know, Trumpers, and it's a Harris rally," Tomasko said. "So they were going back and forth and antagonizing people, and our people were antagonizing them, I guess."
The rally, called by supporters "Rally on the Bridge," was part of the nationwide Women's March, and was specifically in support of Harris and Amendment 4, a ballot measure that would put protections for abortion rights in Florida's state constitution.
Tomasko said she has been attending political events for decades, but has never experienced anything like this.
"My girlfriend called me from Massachusetts and said 'Kathy, I can't believe, we've done rallies like this for how many years and nothing like this ever happens,'" Tomasko said.
There were no other arrests or incidents of violence reported at the event, Bossio said.
Wicker Perlis is TCPalm's Watchdog Reporter for St. Lucie County. You can reach him at wicker.perlis@tcpalm.com.

Charge him for assault on an elderly person...as an adult.
 
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I don't really know about fluoridisation - I have always thought, though, even it opposing it is associated with the conspiracy-minded right, it was just a bit of a "sledge-hammer to crack a nut" kind-of-thing - putting it in everyone's drinking water and having everyone constantly consume the stuff just to get it onto children's teeth seems disproportionate.

Even if there's the smallest chance of it having a negative effect it seems questionable whether it's worth it (and it does seem to increase the chance of osteoporosis, for example).

As it happens, in this area (London) the water has never been fluoridated, but they apparently leave a low-level of naturally-occuring fluoride in it. Oddly enough our new government is proposing to increase active fluoridisation.

Not that long ago this came up


But googling it suggests the research findings on that have been very inconsistent and contradictory (and as a news article that link might have been misleading cherry-picking), but just it being a possibility seems reason to hesitate.



I mean, the other side of it is, if no fluoride means more tooth decay, that means more fillings, and amalgam fillings are 50% mercury (which is known to slowly leak out of them). So thinking about all this stuff too much probably sends you mad. Life is just an unavoidable slow-process of poisoning and decline.
 

zinfamous

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I don't really know about fluoridisation - I have always thought, though, even it opposing it is associated with the conspiracy-minded right, it was just a bit of a "sledge-hammer to crack a nut" kind-of-thing - putting it in everyone's drinking water and having everyone constantly consume the stuff just to get it onto children's teeth seems disproportionate.

Even if there's the smallest chance of it having a negative effect it seems questionable whether it's worth it (and it does seem to increase the chance of osteoporosis, for example).

As it happens, in this area (London) the water has never been fluoridated, but they apparently leave a low-level of naturally-occuring fluoride in it. Oddly enough our new government is proposing to increase active fluoridisation.

Not that long ago this came up


But googling it suggests the research findings on that have been very inconsistent and contradictory (and as a news article that link might have been misleading cherry-picking), but just it being a possibility seems reason to hesitate.



I mean, the other side of it is, if no fluoride means more tooth decay, that means more fillings, and amalgam fillings are 50% mercury (which is known to slowly leak out of them). So thinking about all this stuff too much probably sends you mad. Life is just an unavoidable slow-process of poisoning and decline.
I mean, you are aware that you folks over in Britland have a worldwide reputation for utter shit teeth, right?

I wouldn't use your unfluoridated water as a defense of anything, tbh.
 

itsmydamnation

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Yeah why do your convicts have so much better teeth.... Wouldn't have anything to do with fluoride right..,...
 

Pens1566

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I don't really know about fluoridisation - I have always thought, though, even it opposing it is associated with the conspiracy-minded right, it was just a bit of a "sledge-hammer to crack a nut" kind-of-thing - putting it in everyone's drinking water and having everyone constantly consume the stuff just to get it onto children's teeth seems disproportionate.

Even if there's the smallest chance of it having a negative effect it seems questionable whether it's worth it (and it does seem to increase the chance of osteoporosis, for example).

As it happens, in this area (London) the water has never been fluoridated, but they apparently leave a low-level of naturally-occuring fluoride in it. Oddly enough our new government is proposing to increase active fluoridisation.

Not that long ago this came up


But googling it suggests the research findings on that have been very inconsistent and contradictory (and as a news article that link might have been misleading cherry-picking), but just it being a possibility seems reason to hesitate.



I mean, the other side of it is, if no fluoride means more tooth decay, that means more fillings, and amalgam fillings are 50% mercury (which is known to slowly leak out of them). So thinking about all this stuff too much probably sends you mad. Life is just an unavoidable slow-process of poisoning and decline.

Not sure using the "hey, we don't use fluoride in our water here in England" is exactly the flex you think it should be.
 

pmv

Lifer
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I mean, you are aware that you folks over in Britland have a worldwide reputation for utter shit teeth, right?

I wouldn't use your unfluoridated water as a defense of anything, tbh.

The reason why Americans think Brits have bad teeth is because in the US, _everything_ is about status and class, and as over there having bad teeth is associated with poverty (becuase of the rubbish US medical care system and the massive, shameful, level of inequality), there's a strong impetus for the better-off to ensure their teeth _look_ good, so as not to be associated with poor people. Hence cosmetic dentistry is much more popular than in the UK.
That's why so many Hollywood types have teeth that glow in the dark.

Same reason why wealthy American women want to be super-thin - so as not to be confused with poor people. That's a major driver of much US culture.

PS water is fluoridated in many places, just not in London, because, as I say, it has naturally-occuring fluoride.

Americans are utterly delusional as to the nature of their country (something I see regularly on this forum). It applies to the so-called 'liberal' ones as much as the right (there is no 'left' in the US). You all buy into the same nationalist myths.
 
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