It is already confirmed by AMD to be 480.if the MSRP is $450+ for 9800x3D.
That's the same not so distant future in which we use atomic jet packs for our daily commute, right?that could all change with future AI/LLM backed compilers, where compiler could understand
Wrong future. Its the one where we all can have Ana de Armas as our personal gf.That's the same not so distant the future in which we use atomic jet packs for our daily commute, right?
That's the same not so distant future in which we use atomic jet packs for our daily commute, right?
That's not the part on which I commented on though.Code vectorization
It's trivial for trivial cases...Code vectorization is trivial thing to do. It also so time consuming and shitty job to do that AI should do it.
It's trivial for trivial cases...
So, grab your time machine and get one or wait until the 9800X3D falls below $350, which should be 3-4 months befor the launch of the 10800X3D.Amazon had the 7800x3D for $335 a month ago. Just throwing that out there if the MSRP is $450+ for 9800x3D.
If it was always trivial the compilers would already have solved it and everything would be SIND vectorised by default.It's pretty much trivial to all cases. People here are probably too young to ever coding for vector CPU like cray. Pretty much all loops in code is easily vectorizable. SIMD hardware is the hard part as cpu hardware lacks everything needed to use vectorized models. SIMD still is tivial, it's just massive amount of work needed to code and sustain that code as little changes can broke vectorization models. With AI SIMD models finally might be worth using as they can take care of that hassle needed. On the other hand there's risc-V RVV, first consumer grade vector ISA available for vectorized models that are actually usable.
Why wait, or his time machine has only reverse speed?So, grab your time machine and get one or wait until the 9800X3D falls below $350
We still have to see the performance numbers of the 9800x3D. The time machine is not necessary. I think a lot of people are sitting out this generation of both AMD and Intel CPU's. I know 7800x3D owners are sleeping with a smile on their faces.So, grab your time machine and get one or wait until the 9800X3D falls below $350, which should be 3-4 months befor the launch of the 10800X3D.
Obviously, they are never good value at launch but since they'll sell like hot cakes anyways you can hardly blame them for the pricing.
It's trivial for AI. You describe what to do and AI can vectorize it - and most importantly maintain vectorized code. Now SIMD coding overhead ain't worth doing for pretty much everything but most critical loops - AI might change it.If it was always trivial the compilers would already have solved it and everything would be SIND vectorised by default.
Shh. Sword of Damocles and such.I was just to post this. That's just tomshardware being doing their british tabloid level articles.
I'm still salty they kept financing that thing and shut down Anandtech
Maybe in the future.While modern compilers are good, they don't have the understanding of the code and its intentions. But that could all change with future AI/LLM backed compilers, where compiler could understand the intention and optimize good as or better than experienced assembly programmer (even assembly programmer have to make some sacrifices to make the code more manageable which in turn can reduce performance). AI could rewrite the code to make to get maximum possible performance as well as reduce bloated applications.
Yes indeed. On an air cooler too at that!wow, a 12 core 9900x got second place ! cool !
YupWe still have to see the performance numbers of the 9800x3D. The time machine is not necessary. I think a lot of people are sitting out this generation of both AMD and Intel CPU's. I know 7800x3D owners are sleeping with a smile on their faces.
It's trivial for AI. You describe what to do and AI can vectorize it - and most importantly maintain vectorized code. Now SIMD coding overhead ain't worth doing for pretty much everything but most critical loops - AI might change it.
Please, demonstrate an AI that automatically vectorizes code and does that with 100% accuracy (i.e. preserves the original meaning of the code). The AI I know of has troubles writing even non-vectorized code that is accurate and requires humans to review it and fix things.
I’ve been wanting to start a review site. However, I lack funds currently for hardware, but I have considered reaching out to other reviewers to partner up. Still on the fence. My goal would be to remain independent and probably rely on optional subscriptions/donations.I was just to post this. That's just tomshardware being doing their british tabloid level articles.
I'm still salty they kept financing that thing and shut down Anandtech
I suspect AMD will rebrand after the 9000 series like they did for mobile.So, grab your time machine and get one or wait until the 9800X3D falls below $350, which should be 3-4 months befor the launch of the 10800X3D.
Obviously, they are never good value at launch but since they'll sell like hot cakes anyways you can hardly blame them for the pricing.
That's the selling point right there. 7800X3D is in the top spot on Amazon U.S. at $476. No amount of Ferengi math from reviewers is going to keep the 9800X3D from claiming that spot if there is sufficient stock over the next 3 months.I am predicting that the stock out of the box experience for 9800X3D won't be blowing anyone's socks off in this forum; however, I also think that with a bit of tweaking, and good memory, this will be a gamers dream.
The recent Geekbench run of ST 3475 shows ~5460MHz auto-boosting, which is likely achieved by a +100-150 MHz boost override and unknown CO voltage offset. AMD conservatively chose to avoid a 5.4 or 5.5 listed max boost to protect themselves from reliability issues and thus liability for any unforeseen problems that may arise with this new technology. But it would appear that with a bit of PBO tweaking, 5.45 auto boosting is going to be readily achievable, and indeed should be easily achievable on air.That's the selling point right there. 7800X3D is in the top spot on Amazon U.S. at $476. No amount of Ferengi math from reviewers is going to keep the 9800X3D from claiming that spot if there is sufficient stock over the next 3 months.
Did I see correctly that PBO is 5450MHz? That would track with all of the vanilla Zen 3 I've used. With $30 air cooling they hit 250MHz with ECO mode and +200MHZ PBO.