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pete6032

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Literally wtf:
Probable causes:
  1. People want to know more about the third party candidates so search "Who is running for president"
  2. People who already voted saw several names on their ballot for president that they did not know, so they went home after voting to look those names up.
 

SteveGrabowski

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If it works out this way it's probably because Trump squandered almost every advantage and R crafted near total abortion bans that are getting women killed are, in fact, really unpopular.
The Texas abortion ban increased pregnant women's mortality rates by more than 50% here. The exceptions for when the mother's life is at risk are there in name only.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Yep. Republicans could have had a layup of an election, but they decided to scatter about a ton of rakes for themselves to step on.
Only problem is Trump isn't running on his horrible policies like defunding Social Security and getting rid of the $2000 Medicare prescription drug yearly cap, unlike when Romney pissed away a layup of an election against a weak incumbent by telling the truth that he was going to end Medicare (except for the boomers in his base he needed votes from).
 
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"I wouldn't be surprised if Adams deliberately sabotaged the vote in blue areas as well "

Decades back in a place called Detroit, a jackass named Coleman Young is said to have stationed Detroit Police Officers outside the collection place for ballots from precincts across the city. The were in secured containers and all brought downtown to this central place to be counted. Theory is that they intercepted ballots from precincts thought to be voiting against him and they simply disappeared without explanation. It was never proven, in part because the same officers were involved in the investigation.
 
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This is why Florida and Texas won’t turn blue anytime soon. Conservatives from blue states keep moving to Texas and Florida. If Texas didn’t get an influx of CA conservatives it might have been blue by now.
Blue states are shooting themselves in the foot though by prohibiting or slow walking the construction of more housing, slowing their population growth relative to Sunbelt states.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Updated:

I spent 3 weekends canvassing for Harris in Montgomery Country PA. Here just a few things of note by me.

We went to households with Democrats, Independents and Libertarians asking for votes.

In my case most people didn't answer the door.

Harris/Dems voters were mostly enthusiastic.

Encounters with Trump voters were mostly rude. Some of the canvassers were threatened by Trumpers including me.
A woman said to me through Ring doorbell, "get the fuck off my porch or I'll sick m dog on you. I said, "Ok I'm leaving. Another canvasser was chased into the street by a guy in his pajamas. Another canvasser was yelled, cursed at and he ripper up her materials in her face.

People drove/flew in from as far as Virginia, Maryland and San Francisco to canvass in PA because we are ground zero for the election.

Harris lawn signs were being stolen.

There were no signs on any Republican get out the vote presence seen by anyone. I think the Democratic ground game is so strong and people are so determined I think it will make the difference.
Really hope so. We all owe you for fighting for us against fascism.
 

WilliamM2

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I'm in Northern Michigan, a traditionally RED area. I was happy to see Kamala signs and Trump signs about even this year. I don't think I ever saw a Biden sign in 2020.

The local paper runs letters to the editor, all political for the month of October, 20 or 30 a day. Most years it's about 70% pro republican. This year I have seen maybe 1 or 2 letters a week that are pro republican. Quite refreshing.

I think Michigan is in the bag for Kamala. Hopefully we get rid of Jack Bergman and other republican reps and congressmen that aren't even from Michigan!
 
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HomerJS

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I'm hearing a report from Temple University (Philadelphia) of a 2 hour wait. WTF??

Why in 2024 are people having to wait for 2 hours? This is a way to suppress the vote. Why are there not more machines?
 

evident

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i'm hoping PA goes solid blue. would be great to have a trifecta in our state gov't too. We're so ass backwards in alot of things because we've had a D Gov but a R senate and house. my local state rep went to the R by 11 votes last time, hoping it goes the other way thsi time around
 

Stokely

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I'm hearing a report from Temple University (Philadelphia) of a 2 hour wait. WTF??

Why in 2024 are people having to wait for 2 hours? This is a way to suppress the vote. Why are there not more machines?

Indeed you answered your own question

You can bet that over in Bumblefuck, a rural town not far outside of White City, there's 17 voting stations with 12 of them open at any given time.

I live in 50/50 suburbia and voting today was super quick and easy. It was full of people but just enough turnover so that there was no wait. For once I did any homework I needed to do on amendments so that was easy. Those damn things can be super confusing. Judges were also really easy--Desantis appointed most of them, so out they go. Basically anything that POS is for, I'm against. And at this point, I don't care to even look at individual candidates for non-POTUS races--the GOP is rotten to its core, so I'll vote for whatever party has the best chance of beating them even if it's for dogcatcher. With Rick Scott though, I don't need any extra motivation.
 
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manly

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I'm convinced that stock was setup for rich billionaires and foreigners to launder money to Trump.

I think the same thing for those 100K watches.
That only works if he sells shares to realize capital gains, which he hasn't thus far. IF he loses the election, that stock is primed to drop hard and fast and he'll never have another good chance. Guy was too dumb to sell off a tranche a couple weeks ago. It's free money (subject to tax), but if he doesn't capture the presidency, he'll need a LOT of liquid assets to cover his legal penalties and expenses.

I imagine his advisers told him selling would be a bad look going into the election, and tank the share price, so he probably listened to them.
 

Amused

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That only works if he sells shares to realize capital gains, which he hasn't thus far. IF he loses the election, that stock is primed to drop hard and fast and he'll never have another good chance. Guy was too dumb to sell off a tranche a couple weeks ago. It's free money (subject to tax), but if he doesn't capture the presidency, he'll need a LOT of liquid assets to cover his legal penalties and expenses.

I imagine his advisers told him selling would be a bad look going into the election, and tank the share price, so he probably listened to them.

Maybe his sale is what tanked the price today?

I mean, would we know if he just chose to sell?
 
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nickqt

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I'm hearing a report from Temple University (Philadelphia) of a 2 hour wait. WTF??

Why in 2024 are people having to wait for 2 hours? This is a way to suppress the vote. Why are there not more machines?
Urban areas getting intentionally fucked over by limiting voter machines/precincts is a decades-old known problem.

People waiting until the last few hours on the very last day of voting confounds me. I watched my vote get tallied 20 days ago.

If you believe Trump is actually a danger, why wait until the last minute? Thousands of people across the US planned to vote today and didn't/won't make it for various reasons, some of which being death.
 

trenchfoot

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No chance she would be in court getting a huge divorce payout and honestly with the age difference and his hugely pampered life, I’d bet she’d kick the shit out of him.

Pink eye maybe. Must surely be something a ton of makeup can't fashionably hide. Hey, maybe after she appeared with Trump he reneged on a $deal$ he made with her, they got into a girly fight and Donald, with his eyes closed and face turned aside got in a lucky scratch to her eye while trying to fend off her eagle claw/tiger claw attack.
 

HomerJS

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That only works if he sells shares to realize capital gains, which he hasn't thus far. IF he loses the election, that stock is primed to drop hard and fast and he'll never have another good chance. Guy was too dumb to sell off a tranche a couple weeks ago. It's free money (subject to tax), but if he doesn't capture the presidency, he'll need a LOT of liquid assets to cover his legal penalties and expenses.

I imagine his advisers told him selling would be a bad look going into the election, and tank the share price, so he probably listened to them.
He probably thought winning was in the bag so he held.
 

Muse

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It's going to be a hell of a win if Harris pulls it off, given the worldwide incumbent backlash across recent elections around the world.
But voters in UK and France rejected conservative takeovers of the government, suggesting the same could happen in the USA.
 

Moonbeam

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Blue states are shooting themselves in the foot though by prohibiting or slow walking the construction of more housing, slowing their population growth relative to Sunbelt states.
I tried getting permits to open a garbage dump in Atherton Ca. but got blocked by local residents. Seems they don't want garbage next door. Do you think the same principle might apply here? I've heard some unsavory stereotyping about people from the South. It's almost like Southern White people were an inferior race. Word is they even turned their religion into garbage. Of course, I don't believe a thing I hear. It's just that people tend to resemble what they were taught to believe and that has a lot to do with their local environment over which none of us can control at this late date. Many of us were born surrounded by idiots. That's how I became one. No harm no foul. It's couldn't have been otherwise.

By accident I went to a profoundly liberal high school and the English teachers made me read heavy shit and asked me to defend my positions on it. Who knew there was so much pain expressed in literature and so much questioning about what life means. Shit. Teachers can change how you see things but how many good ones are out there? All I wanted was to make a touchdown and get loved by the girls and have endless sex. Ah me! One of my cats is looking for pets and the other is asleep.

The only time when they worry about imaginary issues is when they twitch in their sleep. Happy election day.
 
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