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NWRMidnight

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Underwhelming start for her.
Not really, as many of the eastern small states are red, along with Florida. Also, they are calling states for Trump the minute the polls close, which is premature as the ballots are no where close to being counted.. which is why they are saying "estamted, or expecsted".. meaning the media is guessing based off of previous election outcomes. We are also in the red mirage right now..

edit: Heck, here is a great example.. Minnasota just switched to Trump leading with zero ballots estimated in or less than a thousand ballots.. that is misleading. Media is fucking part of the problem with people not trusting elections.
edit #2: well Minnasota and 2 other states around it just switched to Harris, less than a minute apart from my first edit..

I thougth reporting wasn't supposed to start until ALL voting closed across the nation so it didn't deture people in the west from casting their vote.. West coast still has almost 2 hours left..
 
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yottabit

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From the outstanding votes left in PA and GA I’d be really surprised if either went Trump.
 

pete6032

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This m-fer winning and not going to prison hasn't even been a thought I have entertained in my mind but the early results are troubling.
 

Dave_5k

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Well, if believe NYT models and early results, everything comes down to the blue wall. Appears now that Harris has to hold all 3 of WI/MI/PA to win ~ and all 3 are coin flips right now. (GA/NC look to be in Trump's corner.)
 

pete6032

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From the outstanding votes left in PA and GA I’d be really surprised if either went Trump.
NYT seems to think GA is leaning Trump at this point. All of their political analyst tweets are saying Trump is likely to win GA and NC.
 

SteveGrabowski

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This m-fer winning and not going to prison hasn't even been a thought I have entertained in my mind but the early results are troubling.
How? You saw him win in 2016. You surely see how little faith Americans (rightfully) have in the economy. You saw how Biden's approval rating tanked the last 3 years. You saw the DNC do whatever it could to protect him and then appoint a candidate who got wrecked in the 2020 primaries. Trump winning 280-300 electoral votes looked like the most probable outcome even a year ago when the DNC stood behind Biden who in the best case was going to be an extremely weak incumbent. This shouldn't come as too much of a surprise.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Well, if believe NYT models and early results, everything comes down to the blue wall. Appears now that Harris has to hold all 3 of WI/MI/PA to win ~ and all 3 are coin flips right now. (GA/NC look to be in Trump's corner.)
They'll probably all go the same direction; they're not independent coin flips. That's where the media royally screwed up predicting the 2016 election.
 
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QueBert

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Well you're sorta seeing the same thing with Kamala, feels like that forced candidate. Granted it was under extraordinary circumstances where a late primary may not have been feasible, but Democrats did this to themselves by gaslighting everyone about Biden's true condition until the very last minute.

My opinion's Biden would still be the candidate if he hadn't shit the bed at the debate. That debate really effected what people thought of his mental ability. And it was too late for damage control so they had to move. I still don't think he has a condition, well not beyond a few flubs here and there. Since the debate he's given some great speeches. That debate was a diaster too great for him to recover from though.

Even as biased as I am, Trump's clearly more gone in the head than Biden. But the MSM basically ignores and glosses over Trump sounding like an old person with Dementia almost constantly, but they reported on every single UH OH Biden had. Biden's old and not 100%, but he's far more competent than Diaper Don. It's a shame he did so poorly at the debate or he might be getting reelected tonight.
 

SteveGrabowski

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My opinion's Biden would still be the candidate if he hadn't shit the bed at the debate. That debate really effected what people thought of his mental ability. And it was too late for damage control so they had to move. I still don't think he has a condition, well not beyond a few flubs here and there. Since the debate he's given some great speeches. That debate was a diaster too great for him to recover from though.

Even as biased as I am, Trump's clearly more gone in the head than Biden. But the MSM basically ignores and glosses over Trump sounding like an old person with Dementia almost constantly, but they reported on every single UH OH Biden had. Biden's old and not 100%, but he's far more competent than Diaper Don. It's a shame he did so poorly at the debate or he might be getting reelected tonight.
I can't imagine the reporting if Biden fellated a microphone. His approval rating was terrible though and he should have stepped down / been forced out a year ago when Democrat voters could have picked someone to lead the party.
 

Indus

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PA is looking real strong for Dems, GA is more hopefully its good with such large countys yet to report.

Apparently massive voter suppression there in the blue counties.. seems Kemp really did not want GA to go blue ever again!
 

compcons

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Obviously there are a few states that are done but so much of the media reporting Trump 51% Harris 49% with...

2% reporting? This is utter bullshit created by media to keep us watching this crap. So many results showing whoever leading with less than 20% results is irresponsible. Its the last gasp of traditional media looking for the "clicks".
 
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Wreckem

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NYT doesn't think the same. Care to give me some hope?
If you remember their needle was way wrong in 2020. NC is probably going to go Trump. Georgia isn’t going to be called till 99% reporting. PA looks good so far for Harris so does Wisconsin.
 
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Indus

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The fact that it's close means MAGA is here to stay.. those old Republican's aren't getting their party back.

And it seems they're okay with being a full fascist dictatorship!

BTW what's up with VA and Trump being up?
 
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pete6032

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From the outstanding votes left in PA and GA I’d be really surprised if either went Trump.

With more than 75 percent of the vote counted in Georgia, Trump is a clear favorite. A lot of votes remain to be counted in the Atlanta area, where Harris has shown some strength. She will need to outperform our expectations there to close the gap.
 
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