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WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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This country disgusts me. Harris can still win for sure but everything is overall bad. These people are just gross, the media is obscene. I had to be optimistic because it kept me sane and ultimately I did believe there was more good than bad in this country.

I will be starting my research to move to Europe tomorrow regardless what happens.

I hope to be there in 2 to potentially 4 or 5 years max.
Lisbon in Portugal is nice!
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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She 100% should have done the Rogan podcast. Would have done far more good than another Rally.

Not this, or Shapiro, or whatever people want to believe is to blame probably is. Anti-incumbent sentiment has wiped out governments across the globe in the last couple years and it's now happened here. Unfortunately the consequences for us and many others globally are dire.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Oct 20, 2014
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What? Dude. We have a bit of time before his policies fuck us up. I'm a white man, I'll be able to get out of the country just fine whenever.
No you don't. He means it when he says he'll be a dictator on Day 1. I don't know why people want to continually underestimate this lunatic that the supreme court gave king powers too.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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On a slightly wider point, your elections are weird! First your results come in ridiculously quickly and second nothing has flipped either way! That's bizarre!
 

fleshconsumed

Diamond Member
Feb 21, 2002
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This country disgusts me. Harris can still win for sure but everything is overall bad. These people are just gross, the media is obscene. I had to be optimistic because it kept me sane and ultimately I did believe there was more good than bad in this country.

I will be starting my research to move to Europe tomorrow regardless what happens.

I hope to be there in 2 to potentially 4 or 5 years max.
Is Europe really safe with Putin next door?
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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The UK and France have that covered. Germany has the manufacturing covered and Poland has the attitude!

I think some Euro nations, eyeing the political shifts both inside and outside the bloc, are likely to decide they require additional protection that they alone control.
 

linkgoron

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Mar 9, 2005
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AP called it for Trump in NC 😩

Edit: not that I was convinced she'd win it but there seemed to be hope. Good luck, y'all! Gonna be a rougher ride this time.
NC always looks good for Ds in the polls and always ends up red. Don't see why anyone expected it to flip. AZ was clearly red as well.

Gaza moving so many Muslim voters is quite surprising to me. Not sure how any Democrat would have faced that.

Fight was always about the rust belt. Maybe Shapiro as VP would have done better, but I'm not sure he wanted the job, nor do I really think that it would have mattered.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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This country disgusts me. Harris can still win for sure but everything is overall bad. These people are just gross, the media is obscene. I had to be optimistic because it kept me sane and ultimately I did believe there was more good than bad in this country.

I will be starting my research to move to Europe tomorrow regardless what happens.

I hope to be there in 2 to potentially 4 or 5 years max.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Fight was always about the rust belt. Maybe Shapiro as VP would have done better, but I'm not sure he wanted the job, nor do I really think that it would have mattered.

Shapiro wants to be president not vice president.
 

gothuevos

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Jul 28, 2010
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When Trump tries to deport 15M people and you literally can't hire landscapers, cooks, construction workers etc people are gonna go "Wait not like that!". See also: Afghanistan Withdrawal.
I think in true Trump fashion he will make a half hearted attempt (ie, only deport a couple million) and just take a victory lap and go golf.
 
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Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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The ones that are legally registered vote are very sensitive over immigration policies which favors the red side. It's doesn't really matter that it's Trump. If that were my number one issue, I'd probably vote red too.
I wonder how all these Latinos will like being stopped and asked for their papers all the time. How the fuck do they think they are going to deport millions of brown people without racial profiling?
 
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WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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I think some Euro nations, eyeing the political shifts both inside and outside the bloc, are likely to decide they require additional protection that they alone control.
I can certainly see a bit more spending on defence from a few countries. It's not necessarily the thread to talk about it but Europe needs to be a bit more independent of the US anyway. It's not a great thing for the US but Europe needs to start looking out for itself.
 
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