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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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America is a fundamentally broken country filled with more disgusting people than anything decent. That's a fact.

I truly feel for all the decent people left here. The media is to blame for their obscene both sidesing coverage of this race. The only hope in a democracy under attack by constant misinformation and hate is the truth, and the media failed to provide it. Kamala had to be flawless while Trump could be lawless. That was the best quote.

Anyone who voted for Trump is your enemy if you have any decency left inside you. It's time to fend for ourselves.

I knew this country was sick, but I had to think positive. This country is just overall gross. I weep for my nieces.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Hate to rub salt into our wounds, but we're also getting smashed in the Senate races.
As yet unclear if (R) holds onto a House majority.

Bottom line as @K1052 said earlier, it isn't just a bad loss for Harris/Walz. Dems got smashed up and down ballot, all over the map.
Losing MI by 6 points (if the margin holds)? You can't even say with a straight face that Harris/Shapiro would have done any better if the Blue wall crumbles across all 3 states.
At this point, it seems likely that Trump sweeps all 7 battlegrounds, which nobody predicted.

An absolute catastrophe.


Any chance he'll end up behind bars before January 6th?
About 0 chance.
 
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Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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It's cute seeing all these reports from state ballot initiatives that enshrine constitutional (state) protection for abortion in states that voted for Trump.

Gonna be fun watching them get smacked in the face with the supremacy clause when the 4th Reich federally bans it ...
 

lopri

Elite Member
Jul 27, 2002
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Shapiro wants to be president not vice president.
Another career politician thoroughly seeped in Neocon/donor class influence.

I suggest the Democratic party get out of it if they want to win national elections. The sooner the better.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Trump wins and all his federal cases go away. He also pardons all the J6 criminals

Kiss the rule of law goodbye. “No one is above the law is officially dead”.

We will have a system of oligarchs just like Russia

When the MAGAts don’t get their $1.5 eggs and $1 gas how long before they blame Biden?

Just getting started
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Fox News Decision Desk—who famously called Arizona for Biden in 2020 and projected good win—just called PA for Trump, giving him 267 and basically a guaranteed path to 270.

Its over.

Lord, if I can get one win from this, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have Trump fly in for an acceptance speech in the Four Seasons Landscaping Parking lot. Just let me have one thing.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Cant wait to see the breakdown of voters and see just who fucked us.

My people, women, Latinos?
When the answer appears to be “all of the above” (assuming “my people” could also mean whites/white males, under 25, 65+, rural voters or several other groups) then I think you have to say the Democrats fucked themselves.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Cant wait to see the breakdown of voters and see just who fucked us.

My people, women, Latinos?
We must resist recriminating certain demographics because we're getting spanked all over the place, up and down ballot. In short, a relatively broad coalition fucked us.
Having said that, the numbers for Latino voters in PA and MI is very disturbing. A gargantuan shift from 2020.
 

ondma

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Cant wait to see the breakdown of voters and see just who fucked us.

My people, women, Latinos?=
The red wave predicted for 2022 finally happened. Harris was just too closely tied to Biden's policies, and to her credit, I guess, she refused to throw him under the bus. Things might have been different if Biden had bowed out earlier and the Dems had held a true open convention and perhaps come up with a better candidate not so closely tied to Biden.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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We must resist recriminating certain demographics because we're getting spanked all over the place, up and down ballot. In short, a relatively broad coalition fucked us.
Having said that, the numbers for Latino voters in PA and MI is very disturbing. A gargantuan shift from 2020.
So is the lesson the be learned by Dems, trash white people and they will vote for you?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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When the answer appears to be “all of the above” (assuming “my people” could also mean whites/white males, under 25, 65+, rural voters or several other groups) then I think you have to say the Democrats fucked themselves.
By my people I mean blacks
 
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jdubs03

Golden Member
Oct 1, 2013
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We must resist recriminating certain demographics because we're getting spanked all over the place, up and down ballot. In short, a relatively broad coalition fucked us.
Having said that, the numbers for Latino voters in PA and MI is very disturbing. A gargantuan shift from 2020.
Crazy after the whole Puerto Rico is garbage commentary.
Trump has demonized Latinos every step of the way since 2015, and this is what happens? It’s like some BDSM shit.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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So is the lesson the be learned by Dems, trash white people and they will vote for you?
The main lesson here is that you must listen to the electorate. I don't think Harris was a certain loser tonight, I thought she ran a good campaign.
Where we failed is we refused to believe the voters when they trashed the economy (inflation) and then linked that to the migrants problem because DJT told them so. Yes it's a bunch of disinformation but if people are voting based on that disinformation, then you've failed to properly change their minds.

We've known for over a year that "Bidenomics" has been largely rejected by the populace, but Dems never disowned it. We insisted that the U.S. economy is the envy of the world (which it is), but that doesn't matter when Joe voter thinks he can't afford stuff.


Crazy after the whole Puerto Rico is garbage commentary.
Trump has demonized Latinos every step of the way since 2015, and this is what happens? It’s like some BDSM shit.
Yes, but as Carville famously said, "It's the economy, stupid."
 
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ondma

Diamond Member
Mar 18, 2018
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We must resist recriminating certain demographics because we're getting spanked all over the place, up and down ballot. In short, a relatively broad coalition fucked us.
Having said that, the numbers for Latino voters in PA and MI is very disturbing. A gargantuan shift from 2020.
Yea, I said a long time ago that the Dems have lost touch with the working class and the common man. You can blame the media, Biden for not dropping out sooner, or a myriad of other reasons, but I think the Dems have to re-examine their message and the way they deliver it after this debacle.
 
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lopri

Elite Member
Jul 27, 2002
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For a woman candidate to have a chance in the future, the candidate will probably need to have built her campaign/movement from the ground up as her own, instead of getting "promoted" from the 2nd place behind a man. It is not a must, but it probably helps. A LOT.
 

GoPackGo

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Oct 10, 2003
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When Social Security and Medicare get killed next year, will it be for everyone, people under 60, 50, 40?
 
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