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K1052

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And whatever kind of crash happens, Dems will be left to clean up the mess

I cannot imagine what political incentives a future potential next D admin or congress that's facing a major economy catastrophe would have to act in ways that they did to get out of the COVID pit. America wants cheap prices even if it means 15% unemployment.
 

Pens1566

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I cannot imagine what political incentives a future potential next D admin or congress that's facing a major economy catastrophe would have to act in ways that they did to get out of the COVID pit. America wants cheap prices even if it means 15% unemployment.

I think it's simpler than that, they just want to be lied to. And told what they want to hear.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I cannot imagine what political incentives a future potential next D admin or congress that's facing a major economy catastrophe would have to act in ways that they did to get out of the COVID pit. America wants cheap prices even if it means 15% unemployment.
Shrug, maybe the solution is just to give out handouts. Executive order, $100/mo to every american. Screw the debt, deficit, just put dollars in pockets and call it a win.
 
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K1052

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I think it's simpler than that, they just want to be lied to. And told what they want to hear.

About the past being better most certainly. The irony is that there is a non-zero chance that the current admin is looked quite similarly in a couple years time but it would be true lol.
 

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About the past being better most certainly. The irony is that there is a non-zero chance that the current admin is looked quite similarly in a couple years time but it would be true lol.
But that's the key isn't it? Point back to when Democratic policies were successful, and say 'vote republican so we can get those times back'.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Terror about causing any kind of inflation ever likely to be the guiding principle from here on out.
So just lie? 'Inflation isn't caused by you getting money! that's dumb! it's caused by republican policies!' /checkmate.
 

Pens1566

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Terror about causing any kind of inflation ever likely to be the guiding principle from here on out.

Until the next buzzword boogeyman (that the majority of the electorate doesn't remotely understand) comes along.
 
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Indus

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I tried telling you all this.. this hate of migrants was real.

You all made fun of me with the "fabricated" shopping cart mafia, the cabbies driving through red lights, the drug dealers driving the wrong way on the road with fake paper license plates, the people robbing pharmacy stores empty didn't materialize out of thin air.

But it was real! And it was turning solid blue dems into Trumpers.

What really didn't help that eggs are way more expensive now! Even at Walmart you hear.. wow eggs are so expensive, fuck Biden/ Kamala in deep blue New York! The huge rallys, commercials, door knocking don't work in this situation.

And the more you argued against people supporting him.. the more they defended him via their faith like become some kind of messianic god figure against the illegal migrants and crime. It's almost as if we need a real criminal mind to truly beat down other criminals.

Even the dem judges postponing his sentencing understood the sentiment around them.

It's not just my imagination.. sadly!

Here's AP's breakdown:

 
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GunsMadeAmericaFree

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Well, it looks like switching from Biden at the last minute didn't help much at all. Now Pubs have the Senate, possibly the house, and 4 more years to put conservatives on the Supreme Court. Should have let Newsom run.
 

Franz316

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She ran a fine campaign and was a well qualified candidate. The only thing that could have been done differently is that Biden drops out in January and they nominate Shapiro, who knows. We lost to disinformation that spews nonsense 24/7, the mediasphere which encourages it, underlying sexism and racism, and an economic message that didn't reach the working class. I think they should let trump do everything they want and run the country into the ground and maybe people will change their minds when Vance runs. This is a very sad day for America and the world.
 

Moonbeam

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Look on the bright side. How many Vietnamese died from our bombs, how many in Afghanistan and Iraq? How many Palestinians are dying from our military support of Israel. How much suffering can a country bring to the world. The Trump folk will speed the payment of our debts. The thing about self haters is that they don’t just fuck themselves, they fuck everybody else they can lay their hands on around them when they have power.

Death by self-entitled ignorance is the bliss of never knowing how we fucked ourselves.
 
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Caesar

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She ran a fine campaign and was a well qualified candidate. The only thing that could have been done differently is that Biden drops out in January and they nominate Shapiro, who knows. We lost to disinformation that spews nonsense 24/7, the mediasphere which encourages it, underlying sexism and racism, and an economic message that didn't reach the working class. I think they should let trump do everything they want and run the country into the ground and maybe people will change their minds when Vance runs. This is a very sad day for America and the world.
At this point the country deserves what it voted for. May be the people need to see the pain of making the wrong choice. But I am not sure. The abortion issue went out the door in a couple years time. We are worse than Russia as we willingly put a criminal in a position of power.
 

K1052

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People go so sick over migrants and inflation.. nothing worked

It's really mostly #2 and in the end it's mostly about perception. The trend of like 70% of people saying their personal econ situation was good but the econ in the country is terrible.
 
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