Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Thunder 57

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The recent Geekbench run of ST 3475 shows ~5460MHz auto-boosting, which is likely achieved by a +100-150 MHz boost override and unknown CO voltage offset. AMD conservatively chose to avoid a 5.4 or 5.5 listed max boost to protect themselves from reliability issues and thus liability for any unforeseen problems that may arise with this new technology. But it would appear that with a bit of PBO tweaking, 5.45 auto boosting is going to be readily achievable, and indeed should be easily achievable on air.

I blew all the 'tards minds over at WCCFTECH by telling them Im running my 9900X on air. They think you need an 240mm AIO even for a sub 100W 7800X3D over there. They've been tricked by business. The reality is that liquid cooling doesnt even need to be considered unless you plan to be running a chip at >200W PPT for extended periods of time.

Last time I looked into it a lot of AIO's were worse than good air coolers.
 

StefanR5R

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Steve and Tim are already saying 10% more performance for 10% more money is bad. So yes indeed everyone, the measly $30 price hike is the lead talkingpoint.
If reviewers want to relate performance to MSRP, and do so specifically for application scenarios in which the hardware-side of the performance is mostly determined by the combo of GPU & RAM & CPU, then they should put the performance delta into relation with the [GPU MSRP & RAM MSRP & CPU MSRP] delta.
 

Josh128

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There's another screenshot from that chiphell.com link, but yeah not sure if these two screenshots were from same machine.

It shows 1.248v @ 5490Mhz.

View attachment 111019


another gaming screenshot, also from that link:

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Yeah the HWinfo shows multiplier of 55x for a 99.8MHz BCLK, so that is def 5.49 GHz OC. Butt the 5.145 game shots are probably a 54x multipler with a 100.3 MHz BCLK or something.
 

MS_AT

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Btw, does anyone know, why, despite AMD listing support DDR5-5600 supported on Strix-Point, there were no models to date announced with socketed DRAM? I mean everything from MiniPCs to gaming laptops? I would understand the decision to stick to soldered only RAM for models depending on iGPU, but if dGPU is present why force soldered DRAM?
 

sl0519

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Still two hours to go but here's one review to relieve some boredom for yall while waiting~


edit: can someone do the math and calculate the avgs out?
edit 2: it's 10% on avg faster than 78x3d
 
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maddogmcgee

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10 percent (mostly due to higher freq I guess ) is much higher than a lot of people were expecting a few weeks ago. Will be interesting to see the gain from my 5800x3d but I think I am sold.
 
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In2Photos

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Btw, does anyone know, why, despite AMD listing support DDR5-5600 supported on Strix-Point, there were no models to date announced with socketed DRAM? I mean everything from MiniPCs to gaming laptops? I would understand the decision to stick to soldered only RAM for models depending on iGPU, but if dGPU is present why force soldered DRAM?
That's easy, soldered RAM means you will need to replace the item rather than upgrade. OEMs/SIs don't get revenue when you upgrade.
 
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