Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Makaveli

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Looks like the launch of the decade. So many reviews! https://videocardz.com/189651/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-roundup

Even CnC got one on launch day!

The chips and cheese reviews are the ones I wait for the most. This is my replacement for tech heavy anandtech articles.
 

eek2121

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Gotta say I'm surprised at the boost. That's a big jump, gives me high hopes for a 9950X3D. I expect it to be slower because of the latency and potential core parking, but it sure looks like the best of both worlds...
The latency is more than compensated for by the increased cache. Note that the 9800X3D scored higher in SPEC 2017 than the 9950X despite a large clock difference of 500 mhz. Production workloads are seeing an improvement as well based on the reviews I've seen.

Part of me wonders why AMD even bothered launching the non-X3D parts.
 

Timorous

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TPU's results seem a little low comparing to other outlets. Certain games like Hogwarts Legacy have no CPU dependance (and higher framerates) whereas other places show the L3 making a big difference. Interesting how the scene can change the outcome of a review.


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TPU used 23H2 for the AMD systems. A lot of other outlets used 24H2 for their test systems except for Arrow Lake where a lot stuck with 23H2 due to 24H2 bugs with Arrow Lake.
 

TESKATLIPOKA

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It's all due to higher clocks. I'm not sure how you expected 65W with higher boost clocks.
You can't have higher clocks without an increase in power. The lower clocks on the 7800X3D is why it sips power. If you could increase its clocks it would most likely have similar or higher power consumption than the 9800X3D.
I know they increased TDP from 65W->120W so they can increase clocks, but I question If It was really worth It.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Flying Spaghetti Monster is it bad out there.

"Intel doesn't care about gaming. They still have dominant market share" "Vast majority of people don't know anything about CPUs." "It doesn't matter at 4K" "It doesn't matter with a mid tier GPU" "Costs too much" "People do more than gaming with their PCs you know!" "Only single digits faster."

Far Cry 6 is another severe beating. Anyone seen MS Flight Sim numbers yet? That should be ugly as well. Taking the lead in Starfield and Hitman 3 = pitched a shutout/blowout. Arrow looks like Bulldozer by comparison.
 

Timorous

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Spot on!


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Deliberately chose 4K
I like that chart. Really cool way of showing min (or 1% lows or whatever the lower bound is), the max (or 1% highs I guess) as well as the average and the area where the bulk of the frame rate is.
 

DAPUNISHER

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You will be agreeing with MLID soon.

His take is that Meteor was Bulldozer and Arrow is Piledriver, better for sure but still miles away from the competition.
Hey, I think he is a good interviewer as I've written about before. His nontent as @Joe NYC dubs it, needs to go away. He needs to just have guests on and discuss the industry. I'd like, subscribe, and comment for the almighty algorithm if he changed to that format.

DF has the flight sim results and oh boy! - https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2024-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review?page=3

LOL igor beat me this time.
 

Timorous

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Hey, I think he is a good interviewer as I've written about before. His nontent as @Joe NYC dubs it, needs to go away. He needs to just have guests on and discuss the industry. I'd like, subscribe, and comment for the almighty algorithm if he changed to that format.

DF has the flight sim results and oh boy! - https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2024-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review?page=3

LOL igor beat me this time.

DF use DLSS in a lot of the titles. Which is fine because that is a feature that a lot of people use, especially at 4K. Just worth pointing out because the 4K results are not a native 4K.

EDIT. Their CP2077 result is pretty interesting. 4K via DLSS Performance with RT Ultra, something that someone might actually use has the 9800X3D at 85fps. A pretty nice advantage over the 7800X3D and I wonder if that lead will grow with a 5090.
 
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