Man, GNR really is crippled by the dingus cIOD.Hmmm. I had decided to pass on Zen 5 but these results are making me rethink this decision. I'll wait to see the 2-CCD results first though. Very impressive showing here from AMD.
Man, GNR really is crippled by the dingus cIOD.
"Blows Intel out of it's socket". Lmao.God damn, it so badass it made Aussie Steve put down the haterade. "It makes the 285K look like an entry level gaming CPU" Still using old windows on arrow; Historic walk off KTFO numbers kids. 👀
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It’s already been addressed with X3D.Based on what we are seeing today it’s pretty clear IOD and memory are the biggest bottleneck's on Zen 5. So can't wait to see that addressed in the next Gen.
It's been addressed with stx-halo.It’s already been addressed with X3D.
We should get a sneak peak of how an upgraded IOD and, more importantly, connection between the IOD and CCD will help when Strix Halo gets reviewed.Based on what we are seeing today its pretty clear IOD and memory are the biggest bottleneck's on Zen 5. So can't wait to see that addressed in the next Gen.
the 7800X3D has a 120W TDP.
Really , my mistake.Both the 7800X3D and 9800X3D are 120W parts.
Oh I know. I been saying that for ages now. I meant for DIYIt's been addressed with stx-halo.
Inb4 "Well, no one games at 1080p with a 4090, so Arrowlake is good enough for 4K gaming"
just total chaos for intel
Because it clocks higher in non-gaming due to having way less thermal limits.Despite the same TDP It consumes a lot more power, actually in some tests It consumes 2x more, that's why I made a mistake and thought 7800X3D was only 65W.
Arrow is just bad for gaming. It performs worse than even Raptor Lake, actually even application performance is not that good, at least we know why AMD didn't release more than 16 cores.Stoked to see the MSRP talking point squashed. DF conclusion covers it well -
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D review: obliterating the competition
An easy recommendation, even at $479.
looking at multiple reviews; the number of games in which it has a 30-40%+ lead over arrow is astonishing. All while having excellent performance per watt.
I think the MSRP talking point had more to do with it's price compared to the 7800X3D rather than Arrow Lake.Stoked to see the MSRP talking point squashed. DF conclusion covers it well -
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D review: obliterating the competition
An easy recommendation, even at $479.
looking at multiple reviews; the number of games in which it has a 30-40%+ lead over arrow is astonishing. All while having excellent performance per watt.
Well the 9700X was released as a 65W part and only had a 100MHz advantage in the boost clock. 9800X3D has a +200MHz advantage on the boost clock plus a higher base clock and is able to keep that speed due to the cache moving under the die. My guess is that if you limited the 9800X3D to 5GHz you might see similar performance to the 7800X3D. But that extra +200MHz is costly on the power side.Really , my mistake.
Despite the same TDP It consumes a lot more power, actually in some tests It consumes 2x more, that's why I made a mistake and thought 7800X3D was only 65W.
On the other hand 9700X vs 7700 were pretty similar in power consumption.
I think the problem is it came from Arrow Lake being bad, not Granite Ridge being good. Only the X3D variant is the real improvement in the x64 world this year.I said Intel has no chances in client and accidentally it came true. Too bad!
it’s funny tho, only an 50 series Nvidia GPU can show the full potential of X3D. That’s what AMD gets for being slack in the GPU department.Looking at the HWUB review, it seems like if they had a faster GPU, the overall average difference between the 9800x3d and 7800x3d would be even higher as they appear to be running into a GPU bottleneck on some of the games.
True, but we are talking here about extra ~400-500MHz resulting in 72% more power in handbrake.LinkBecause it clocks higher in non-gaming due to having way less thermal limits.