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Fenixgoon

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Voters in Bucks County react to Pennsylvania election results​




So apparently, Republicans are saying we voted for Trump because you had your turn and now let us have our chance to run the government. '_'
And don't be salty. Fuck you (the guy in the article, not you Amol)
 
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Please please PLEASE tell me how inflation is going to come down with Trumps tariffs, Phillip. I really want to know.
If those tariffs that T promised are put into effect I hope Phillip gets slammmmmed by them. I know it’s assholeish to say but idc, I’m pissed right now.
 
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Perhaps. However about 4 in 10 still voted for the hating union workers party though, and given the shrinking roles of unions and tight margins, is it worth sticking your necks out if you're not going to be politically rewarded?
Yeah it’s not the result I wanted but it’s outside of fuck these guys territory.
 
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Please please PLEASE tell me how inflation is going to come down with Trumps tariffs, Phillip. I really want to know.
If those tariffs that T promised are put into effect I hope Phillip gets slammmmmed by them. I know it’s assholeish to say but idc, I’m pissed right now.

even worse, inflation has already come down and no one actually wants to see prices go down (deflation) because that means the economy is getting flushed down the shitter.
 

akugami

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House is leaning 90% towards Rep right now so it'll be a clean sweep and unmitigated power to the most insane man in the world. Buckle up.

My only hope, slim as it is, is that he does absolutely nothing with it just like last time, and his replacement for Obamacare will come next week in perpetuity, and that Infrastructure Week is next week in perpetuity.
 

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even worse, inflation has already come down and no one actually wants to see prices go down (deflation) because that means the economy is getting flushed down the shitter.
I've already posted this and people refuse to listen. When people say they want "inflation to go down" they actually mean that they want prices to go down not for prices to go up slowly again.

That's why saying "inflation has already come down" (which is true) doesn't actually resonate with these people.
 

MrSquished

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I've already posted this and people refuse to listen. When people say they want "inflation to go down" they actually mean that they want prices to go down not for prices to go up slowly again.

That's why saying "inflation has already come down" (which is true) doesn't actually resonate with these people.
Sure can you tell me the price of eggs and gas now vs a couple years ago?

Nothing resonates with the idiots.
 

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Perhaps. However about 4 in 10 still voted for the hating union workers party though, and given the shrinking roles of unions and tight margins, is it worth sticking your necks out if you're not going to be politically rewarded?
the union electrician on the job alluded that last night went well. What a fucking moron. It is as if "enlightened self interest" was unknown to him.
My Union sent out a letter or two that urged us to vote for our best interests and to be informed about what that means. Get the hint, brothers and sisters.
 

linkgoron

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even worse, inflation has already come down and no one actually wants to see prices go down (deflation) because that means the economy is getting flushed down the shitter.
The concept that prices going up is fine and natural because that's the way of the world but "prices going down" is somehow a bad things which means that the economy is getting flushed down the toilet sounds super deceptive. It sounds conceptually wrong, and is also against the core idea of a competitive free market and supply and demand.

I get why economists supposedly state that, but to layman it sounds like a lie to allow corporation and the government to just keep with high prices.
 

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IMO the average person's grasp of inflation is how it's hitting them in their wallet, so success is either their take-home wages goes up considerably or prices come down.
 
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The concept that prices going up is fine and natural because that's the way of the world but "prices going down" is somehow a bad things which means that the economy is getting flushed down the toilet sounds super deceptive. It sounds conceptually wrong, and is also against the core idea of a competitive free market and supply and demand.

I get why economists supposedly state that, but to layman it sounds like a lie to allow corporation and the government to just keep with high prices.
Over the long run, prices never go down except in cases where technology breakthroughs make products way more efficient to produce.

We understand why people are frustrated by price levels, but nobody should want general price deflation. Deflation usually occurs in a sickly economy.

This is not some wonky economist concept or corporate lie; it's how capitalism has always worked when you have a money supply that grows. And what are you talking about the government keeping high prices? We don't have a command economy where prices are set by the central government.

If Trump voters really want 2019 prices back, also tell them to accept their 2019 salary as well. How many will take that deal?


IMO the average person's grasp of inflation is how it's hitting them in their wallet, so success is either their take-home wages goes up considerably or prices come down.
Yes, but over roughly the past decade in the U.S., real wages have gone up a bit. This mainly started as a West coast thing for low end service workers. I get why citizens aren't thrilled about the past 4 years of aggregate inflation but that will never be reversed unless Trump crashes the economy worse than 2008. But the reality is that it's not all gloom and doom out there, because the U.S. economy is still powered by robust consumer spending. People say the economy sucks, but their actual behavior belies that.

Again, I understand housing costs are high post-Covid and grocery costs are up sharply. However, besides lower prices, 2019 wasn't the "best of times" and apparently people have forgotten what real economic pain is like: back in 2009 when the unemployment rate was over 10%.

Meanwhile, decades of GOP policies just return money to billionaires and fatten corporate profits; so it's the height of folly to think more of that will magically help the middle class.
 
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Over the long run, prices never go down except in cases where technology breakthroughs make products way more efficient to produce.

We understand why people are frustrated by price levels, but nobody should want general price deflation. Deflation usually occurs in a sickly economy.
It's natural to expect that if you have insane inflation for a time it's natural expect some price correction in the other way. "Deflation usually occurs in a sickly economy." doesn't mean ALWAYS just usually.

This is not some wonky economist concept or corporate lie; it's how capitalism has always worked when you have a money supply that grows.
Yeah, obviously "price goes up is natural" and "price goes down is bad" is a concept that makes sense to many people. All of the explanations are "macro" economics. It's bad "for the economy" it's "bad for investors" - it's not always bad for the person who now needs to spend more money. If you had a huge spike in inflation, telling people that "inflation is solved" is meaningless for them, because you haven't solved anything - you just stopped things from getting worse faster.

And what are you talking about the government keeping high prices? We don't have a command economy where prices are set by the central government.
I was talking more inline with taxes, rates (which comes from the fed, before you try to correct me for some reason) etc.
If Trump voters really want 2019 prices back, also tell them to accept their 2019 salary as well. How many will take that deal?
Many, I believe.
But the reality is that it's not all gloom and doom out there, because the U.S. economy is still powered by robust consumer spending. People say the economy sucks, but their actual behavior belies that.
In general I agree that the economy isn't as bad as it's painted out to be, but I also think with regards to consumer spending that people are just used to having tons of debt these days. I also think that as housing has gone out of reach for many, money is just getting spent elsewhere (e.g. cars, traveling etc.) because they don't feel they have anything to invest/save for.

Meanwhile, decades of GOP policies just return money to billionaires and fatten corporate profits; so it's the height of folly to think more of that will magically help the middle class.
No doubt about that.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I've already posted this and people refuse to listen. When people say they want "inflation to go down" they actually mean that they want prices to go down not for prices to go up slowly again.

That's why saying "inflation has already come down" (which is true) doesn't actually resonate with these people.
Just wait until they find out that tackling climate change doesn't mean climate/weather will go back to 1980's.

The uneducated rule this planet.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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The concept that prices going up is fine and natural because that's the way of the world but "prices going down" is somehow a bad things which means that the economy is getting flushed down the toilet sounds super deceptive. It sounds conceptually wrong, and is also against the core idea of a competitive free market and supply and demand.

I get why economists supposedly state that, but to layman it sounds like a lie to allow corporation and the government to just keep with high prices.
Probably because it's obviously unsustainable. People may be pretty ignorant overall, but they know that if prices go up up up indefinitely, their wages won't. They've seen that first-hand. Eventually you WILL be priced out of your own markets, including necessities.

What they fail to realize is that's a prime facet of capitalism, and that is what you have to do something about.
 

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Well if Trump has immunity for trying to overturn an election, why can't Biden overturn the election by executive order? You might be onto something.

The scotus determines what is an official acts, as per their decision. So R=immune, D=not immune

I agree Biden should test it though
 
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Fenixgoon

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Probably because it's obviously unsustainable. People may be pretty ignorant overall, but they know that if prices go up up up indefinitely, their wages won't. They've seen that first-hand. Eventually you WILL be priced out of your own markets, including necessities.

What they fail to realize is that's a prime facet of capitalism, and that is what you have to do something about.
This 1000%
 
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