Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

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No point? Weren't they practicing new things with it?

Expensive practicing. Missed a very important target: GAMING



They really were that confused at the end and had no choice but to release Arrow Lake in beta form.

Adamantine cache could've saved them, if they could've figured out how to create a decent enough large cache using their fabs...
 

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Adamantine cache could've saved them, if they could've figured out how to create a decent enough large cache using their fabs...
You don't need to blame design issues on Fab their fab is the only thing that is meeting timelines and delivering and Raptor Lake Fiasco is not on Fabs Either more like a design issue you should really cut them some slack
 

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You don't need to blame design issues on Fab their fab is the only thing that is meeting timelines and delivering and Raptor Lake Fiasco is not on Fabs Either more like a design issue you should really cut them some slack
via oxidation was squarely on the fabs. We may never know the extent of how many 13th gen were affected either.
 

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There is really no place else to put the following post? It can't go in the Raptor builders thread as it isn't going to be a positive post. It can't go in hot deals or the computer builders forums because it isn't for help or a deal. It isn't a barebones combo. It's not a prebuilt, nor does it merit its own thread. It may have some bearing on the topic however, as it looks like Newegg is forced to sell this stuff off instead of using it in their own systems? Likely due to greatly decreased demand for raptor builds. LMK if I am wrong here, I can delete my post if you all think it's offtopic.

ABS is selling off an ABS 13700f+board+cooler combo. IMO It's overpriced garbage. With that cooler and board it will throttle hard playing something like Space Marine 2 or LIberty CIty for hours. Do the shoppers queueing for it understand that? https://www.newegg.com/abs-pc-starter-kit/p/N82E16883363003?Item=N82E16883363003

They are only offering a year parts and labor to add insult to injury.
 
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13700F it doesn't even have iGPU if it was non-F it would have its uses also nonK processor have coolers( it's basically CPU+MB if it was ram it would have been a better Combo) someone will definitely buy it at that price lol though
 
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Didn't we have lawsuits already 🤣 what happened to those
 
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What i am seeing is 50$ being issued to all the affected people 10 years later like AMD am i wrong 🙂
You don't get it, it isn't about the end user, it's about punishing anti consumer practices. Intel is already suffering death by 1000 cuts. These lawsuits, including the ones governments will be bringing are going to be a liver kick for Intel.This isn't going to end well.
 

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You don't get it, it isn't about the end user, it's about punishing anti consumer practices. Intel is already suffering death by 1000 cuts. These lawsuits, including the ones governments will be bringing are going to be a liver kick for Intel.This isn't going to end well.
They are already in the worst situation ever and lawsuits doesn't get resolved in a year it takes years,it is a future problem not a current problem which is running out of cash or getting not a single customer for it's foundry
 

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They are already in the worst situation ever and lawsuits doesn't get resolved in a year it takes years so it is a future problem not a current problem that is running out of cash
This is the tired "Intel has so many problems that rapture is way down the list" argument. It's disingenuous and won't change anything. Intel is embattled, and having civil suits is a whole bunch more cuts. This won't end well.
 
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Intel is embattled, and having civil suits is a whole bunch more cuts. This won't end well.
It's true that immediately they probably have nothing to worry about but they may have to set aside a certain earnings impacting amount to settle these lawsuits in the future and I'm sure internal meetings may already have taken place for these discussions as early as January 2023. The really damning thing would be if any former disgruntled employees with damaging information step forward. Then all bets are off.
 
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Laugh, cry, huff copium; none of it will help. AMD and Nvidia lost because it was hardware related; so will Intel.

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As an Nvidia bumbgate sufferer (8800GT, 8400GS, nForce 2 of the top of my head) I never got anything as any settlement was USA only. And even if it hadn't been, while - for example - $10 years later is better than nothing it is far too little for the consumer.

And it is also far too little for the corporation as "if you sell $billions of faulty parts" and are later forced to settle for $250 million... Well Leather-Jacket-Man could easily laugh that one off.

Regarding Intel: not so much faulty hardware but if caught out abusing market dominance and bribing OEMs and maybe decades later having to pay a paltry fine... an effective reward to fine ratio of 1:1000 or so ... again not really any deterrence, is it?

Class actions are better than nothing but it is really it should be consumer regulators (and monopolies regulators in the case of Intel and those OEM shenanigans) who should sort this kind of thing out. Corporation should should fear regulators rather than thinking they can get way with anything.
 

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What i am seeing is 50$ being issued to all the affected people 10 years later like AMD am i wrong 🙂
From what I understand, the primary plaintiffs that found the class stand to get the most in damages. Other beneficiaries (that is, people deemed to be a member of the class without initiating any action on their own) are the ones that wind up with $50 checks in the mail (or similar).
 

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No way Hulk got three random bad CPUs! Dang, are we seeing Intel's strategy for perfecting planned obsolescence go awry in real time???
Nope they don't want it cause it is on Intel node they want you to buy Intel 7 products lol not All TSMC Silicon
 
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