Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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desrever

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What a ride it has been. We went from the haters celebrating Zen5% and how lame that is because we needed more gaming performance than that generationally. To Arrow coming out and being a disaster. So the cope kicked in hard with the "People do more than game on their PC you know!"

Then the 9800X3D launching, and suddenly none of us need that much CPU for gaming.

"It doesn't matter at 4K!" "It doesn't matter if you don't have a 4090!" I am getting second hand embarrassment from reading it everywhere.
Also 30% increase in power consumption from the most efficient desktop cpu ever is now unacceptable.
 

CP5670

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Great cpu but not necessarily that much faster than 7800X3D for 4K gaming except a few edge cases like flight simulator. Not sure it's worth the upgrade for a purely gaming focused PC. I'll probably get it at some point from MC but not right away.
One thing to add to this though is that the CPU tends to have an outsize improvement in big RPGs in specific maps or areas, in a way that benchmarks don't always show because it only happens there. I saw this in the Byzantium area of Outer Worlds going from 10700K to 7800X3D. GN said BG3 had a 26% gain like this, much bigger than other games.
 
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“MSRP” increased by $30AUD in nearly all official retailers in Australia
Manageable. For now. If AMD doesn't step up, it could increase as the existing buyers start reselling in the hope of making a cool profit. It's not hard math making some extra bucks and still getting the 7800X3D which will suffice for most gaming needs.
 

majord

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have to say, the eye popping Gaming performance seems to have shadowed the impressive general application perf IMO


I haven't had a chance to pour over data from the 7800X3D in huge detail, , but just from hindsight and what I have seen the standout for me is how Zen 5 has responded to cache outside of gaming workloads. The effective 'ipc' increase seems notably more significant.. around 8% in CnC's Spec INT Testing, and in Computerbase's Tests for CB24 , we can see it's around 6% faster than the TDP unlocked 9700X in Multi core as they both sit at roughly 5.2Ghz under All core load in this case (conveniently - check their OG 9700X review)

In ST CB it sits around 4% higher iso clock estimated (The 9700X is 5.5% higher clocked, but only 2% higher performance) , Ditto WebXPrt










The end result is in MT in particular, some quite phenomenal overall performance really for an 8 core CPU @ 5.2Ghz .. It's like Zen 5 comes alive.

It would be great to see what it does with the wick wound down a bit too.
 
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