Republicans actually have to govern, which they will discover is harder than sabotaging a government and blaming everything that happens on the governing party. From 1-20-25 on, if things go to shit - Republican’s fault. Republicans will soon find out that it’s easier to wield a wrecking ball than a construction crane. there won’t be (I hope) a pandemic to obfuscate the relative success or failure of their governance.
One normal positive case for losing the presidency is that the other party is likely to do well in the next congressional elections. If Trump turns out to be a real dictator, this does not apply. But destroying a representative democracy as entrenched as the U.S. likely takes more than four or eight years. Of course, likely is not the same as impossible.
I see these things as possible positives:
America can get Trump out of its system in 4 years. You want a chaotic evil President except this time he has a literal kill list? Well now you have him, and you get to see what he does with that power.
Even though Trump won’t accept responsibility for anything, things will still be his and the R's fault. Natural disasters, economy, foreign policy crises, et cetera. Trump can and will blame them on everyone else but at the end of the day POTUS is expected to do things and he will fail to do them. If he is candidate Trump, he can ascribe this to sabotage. If he is President Trump, his failures belong to him whether he wants them or not.
Possible negatives:
it’s a fact that one of the oldest, most mature democracies in the world entrusted its highest office to a lying, cheating, incompetent charlatan. That’s the bad thing. It’s the fact that it did so again that’s the bad thing. It’s the fact that the public failed to act in its own best interest, calling into question the assumptions behind the idea of democracy.
Vance’s closeness to both Curtis Yarwin’s neo-monarchistic ideas and the integralism movement that openly calls for a revocation of the separation of church and state, not to mention men getting the vote for their household (in proportion of the number of children they have), makes him a much more direct threat to core democratic values than a narcissist whose vision barely exceeds his own caricature.
One normal positive case for losing the presidency is that the other party is likely to do well in the next congressional elections. If Trump turns out to be a real dictator, this does not apply. But destroying a representative democracy as entrenched as the U.S. likely takes more than four or eight years. Of course, likely is not the same as impossible.
I see these things as possible positives:
America can get Trump out of its system in 4 years. You want a chaotic evil President except this time he has a literal kill list? Well now you have him, and you get to see what he does with that power.
Even though Trump won’t accept responsibility for anything, things will still be his and the R's fault. Natural disasters, economy, foreign policy crises, et cetera. Trump can and will blame them on everyone else but at the end of the day POTUS is expected to do things and he will fail to do them. If he is candidate Trump, he can ascribe this to sabotage. If he is President Trump, his failures belong to him whether he wants them or not.
Possible negatives:
it’s a fact that one of the oldest, most mature democracies in the world entrusted its highest office to a lying, cheating, incompetent charlatan. That’s the bad thing. It’s the fact that it did so again that’s the bad thing. It’s the fact that the public failed to act in its own best interest, calling into question the assumptions behind the idea of democracy.
Vance’s closeness to both Curtis Yarwin’s neo-monarchistic ideas and the integralism movement that openly calls for a revocation of the separation of church and state, not to mention men getting the vote for their household (in proportion of the number of children they have), makes him a much more direct threat to core democratic values than a narcissist whose vision barely exceeds his own caricature.
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