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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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My opinion is that the entire case was bullshit. It appears that that's the majority opinion of the nation.
You mean the same majority that said banning black people from a public accommodation isn't racist?

Did the majority have the evidence in front of them? With that logic, what other adjudicated people in court are you willing to say were bullshit?

I say the case against Charles Manson was bullshit. He wasn't even at the scene of the murders.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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My opinion is that the entire case was bullshit. It appears that that's the majority opinion of the nation.
It’s funny you’ve previously made the argument that we can’t know things without a trial. There was a trial a verdict was rendered and you just hand wave the result away.

It’s almost like you aren’t arguing in good faith or something.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
7,805
8,322
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It’s funny you’ve previously made the argument that we can’t know things without a trial. There was a trial a verdict was rendered and you just hand wave the result away.

It’s almost like you aren’t arguing in good faith or something.
It's been clear that people pretending to have integrity are the worst kind of people to attempt a conversation with.

They backpedal and change their criteria, then deny, and then run away...only to appear later defending whatever their tribalism requires them to defend as they backpedal and change their criteria, then deny, and then run away...

It goes on forever.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
21,194
5,747
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Trump rapes a 9 year old girl

Grennie: She entrapped him
Why post such foolishness? I expressed an opinion that you disagree with, and you can't live with that so you have to launch off into stupidity and innuendo. Help me understand why.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
86,098
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Why post such foolishness? I expressed an opinion that you disagree with, and you can't live with that so you have to launch off into stupidity and innuendo. Help me understand why.
I mean I've been asking you for a while to help me understand what policies Trump and/or Harris have that would lead you to decide someone convicted of dozens of felonies, found liable for rape, and who attempted a coup was the preferable candidate.

Why would you expect him to do what you refuse to do yourself? Don't all the felonies bother you?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
37,088
29,423
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Why post such foolishness? I expressed an opinion that you disagree with, and you can't live with that so you have to launch off into stupidity and innuendo. Help me understand why.
You claimed Trump being a sexual assaulter is bullshit despite his admission and adjudicated as such. You not only disagreed but just for the sake of Trump indicted our entire criminal justice system.

My response was to point out no matter how heinous an act Trump commits you will find a way to excuse it.

He said himself he can murder someone on 5th ave and his people wouldn't care. Check.
Twice publicly admitted to being a sexual assaulter. Check.
At his sexual assault trial the judge said Trump raped her. Check.
Bursting into a dressing room to ogle underage girls. Check.
Jeffery Epstein BFF. Check

My final point Trump raping a 9 year old girl is not a stretch given his history. Given your history, excusing it a not a stretch either.

You call my post foolish. What would have been foolish? The scenario of Obama raping a 9 year old. Why? Because based on what we publicly know the plausibility of Obama doing it a close to zero. Trump however has a history that makes it highly plausible he is capable of such a heinous act.
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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You claimed Trump being a sexual assaulter is bullshit despite his admission and adjudicated as such. You not only disagreed but just for the sake of Trump indicted our entire criminal justice system.

My response was to point out no matter how heinous an act Trump commits you will find a way to excuse it.

He said himself he can murder someone on 5th ave and his people wouldn't care. Check.
Twice publicly admitted to being a sexual assaulter. Check.
At his sexual assault trial the judge said Trump raped her. Check.
Bursting into a dressing room to ogle underage girls. Check.
Jeffery Epstein BFF. Check

My final point Trump raping a 9 year old girl is not a stretch given his history. Given your history, excusing it a not a stretch either.

You call my post foolish. What would have been foolish? The scenario of Obama raping a 9 year old. Why? Because based on what we publicly know the plausibility of Obama doing it a close to zero. Trump however has a history that makes it highly plausible he is capable of such a heinous act.
I mean for months/years he was like 'you can't judge Trump guilty as he hasn't been convicted yet'.

Then he was convicted and Greenman is like 'yeaahhhhh, I still don't care.'
 

outriding

Diamond Member
Feb 20, 2002
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My opinion is that the entire case was bullshit. It appears that that's the majority opinion of the nation.

The EJC case was about defamation

Trump lost ~5 million in the first case. Then he kept running his mouth and she smacked him with another lawsuit and becuase it was exactly the same it was fast tracked and for more money

Trump plays with fire and he got burned

Trump said he is going to open up the laws to allow this..

And this is the same man who is suing ABC for 10 billion becuase he thinks ABC edited the Kamala interview


Edit…

Yes I believe EJC was sexually assaulted and the NY definition at the time it happened I think was in accurate and glad they changed it
 
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outriding

Diamond Member
Feb 20, 2002
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If the appeals court overturns the conviction then he wasn't guilty of anything. The "crime" in question had no victim.

That is incorrect

Banks have a finite amount of money to lend. The banks will loan out money to people and could have denied other people with more favorable terms


A fair analogy would be speeding if I don’t cause an accident or impede others there is no victim but I would still have consequences if caught

This is no differnt
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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That is incorrect

Banks have a finite amount of money to lend. The banks will loan out money to people and could have denied other people with more favorable terms

A fair analogy would be speeding if I don’t cause an accident or impede others there is no victim but I would still have consequences if caught

This is no differnt
Amusingly enough his argument also means it should be legal for everyone to lie on their credit/mortgage applications so long as they pay on time. Sure you've lied to the bank and exposed them to a bunch of risk they didn't want to take on and/or worse lending terms for them but since you abided by the terms of the agreement you fraudulently entered into it's fine! It's basically an argument that fraud shouldn't be considered fraud so long as you can make the lie work.

There are lots of 'victimless' crimes out there for exactly this reason - they aren't actually victimless. If obstruction of justice weren't a crime every crooked CEO out there would burn their incriminating documents as soon as they got into trouble. We understand that allowing criminals to freely destroy evidence is bad, so we make it illegal. Similarly we as a society understand why falsifying business records to conceal other crimes and/or get advantageous terms is bad. The main problem is part of our society has decided those crimes are okay so long as their guy is doing them.
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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Who is the victim of someone overstaying their Visa and continuing to work and live in this country? Who is the victim of someone illegally crossing the border so they can work, live, and pay taxes in this country?
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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I mean I've been asking you for a while to help me understand what policies Trump and/or Harris have that would lead you to decide someone convicted of dozens of felonies, found liable for rape, and who attempted a coup was the preferable candidate.

Why would you expect him to do what you refuse to do yourself? Don't all the felonies bother you?
Hm, and something tells me he'll continue to not ever give a meaningful answer. Cognitive dissonance probably getting in the way.
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Hm, and something tells me he'll continue to not ever give a meaningful answer. Cognitive dissonance probably getting in the way.
'The heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies.'

He wanted to vote for Trump so he found a way to convince himself all the felonies, rapes, etc. either didn't happen or are part of some witch hunt that Trump is a victim of. He doesn't want to come right out and say that though because he knows on one level how crazy that sounds. So... best to not answer.
 

APU_Fusion

Golden Member
Dec 16, 2013
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Guys, greenman is laughably dumb. Why are you torturing yourself with him. He knows Trump is a felon. He knows Trump raped a woman. He knows Trump wanted to fuck his own daughter. He knows Trump lied about illegal immigrants eating pets. He knows Trump is racist.

He is hand waving it away because he wants to do all the same things. He is dishonest cult member. If the US Army murdered 10k people in a camp on national television Greenman would either say it didn’t happen, the democrats staged it, or they were evil monsters who were eating all the white babies.

They are in a cult and align with Trump’ evil,

Logic, compassion, empathy and objective reality are dead in America. All there is now are “feelings”. but my feelings say the sky is filled with devil worshipping unicorns and nothing you can show will tell me otherwise as you both look at blue sky.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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'The heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies.'

He wanted to vote for Trump so he found a way to convince himself all the felonies, rapes, etc. either didn't happen or are part of some witch hunt that Trump is a victim of. He doesn't want to come right out and say that though because he knows on one level how crazy that sounds. So... best to not answer.
Can't like this hard enough.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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29,881
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Amusingly enough his argument also means it should be legal for everyone to lie on their credit/mortgage applications so long as they pay on time. Sure you've lied to the bank and exposed them to a bunch of risk they didn't want to take on and/or worse lending terms for them but since you abided by the terms of the agreement you fraudulently entered into it's fine! It's basically an argument that fraud shouldn't be considered fraud so long as you can make the lie work.
Trump clearly committed felony fraud. I can't quite work up a tear for the banks he defrauded. Banks won't do due diligence if they think they can make more money by skipping it. A good chunk of the junk mortgages at the center of the 2008 meltdown were based on "liar loans" where everyone involved knew the borrowers didn't have the means to repay the loans. But since housing never goes down and the banks were flipping the loans anyway, the banks didn't care. Trump is an even worse case as he had a decades long history of screwing creditors. Loaning money to Trump is plain old stupid.
 
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BonzaiDuck

Lifer
Jun 30, 2004
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I cannot answer the question posed with any certainty.

The facts were there; the prosecutors were there, not likely to indict unless they had facts to prove their cases.

I said it in another thread: He's a criminal -- convicted (which he is, in part) or otherwise. If you couldn't describe him as a criminal, then law enforcement or a posse would not go after fugitives because "they're innocent until proven guilty". That's about punishment. It's not about likely criminality, and Trump makes "likely" look like the only bet worth taking. He's a criminal.

As some suggest, proving that justice is not served equally as an ongoing -- not new -- status quo -- seems justified.

Should I go stand in front of a junior high-school, and pass out fliers saying "Kids! Your President is a criminal, and got off scot free! Acquire a gun and rob a bank! You'll be rich!"?

Should I? Not such a good idea for someone in my circumstance and age. There might be a law against it, parallel to "incitement to riot".

Does anyone believe that OJ Simpson was "not guilty"? The prevailing view weighs against the acquittal that took place.

Unless something is done by the legislature, there will be more incentive for white-collar -- likely GOP actors -- to commit various crimes similar to those of Trump. My God! He's going to pardon Stewart Rhodes and Kelly Megs -- possibly hundreds of others -- maybe all!

I'll say at the moment, despite urgings of my congressman, senators and the outgoing President -- I spit on my country and I spit on the GOP. Confront me in person to make your criticism and I'll send you to a plastic surgeon who will weep!

I won't be able to control myself. I'll go before the judge under assault and battery charges and explain where I had the incentive to smash your face in. So? Effing stay away!
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
24,507
11,145
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Who is the victim of someone overstaying their Visa and continuing to work and live in this country? Who is the victim of someone illegally crossing the border so they can work, live, and pay taxes in this country?
All those out of work white people clamoring for those jobs, duh.
 
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