Democrats lost the support of many on the left this election, people who were calling people on the right scum, and now
I made a typo in my post that is confusing. I typed not instead of now it’s Republicans in the driver’s. I fixed it.It’s difficult to tell from your post. Who are we looking to punish here? The people who voted for Trump? The people who voted for Harris? The people who didn’t vote? The people who were dicks to certain other people? Need to know who you’re asking folks to hate. Aside from themselves obviously.
Edit: Ah, thread title explains it. The payback will be unrestricted.
God, I wish I were that optimistic.pre-note: I stopped posting here because I never had the time to keep up with threads leaving conversations hanging, and not much has changed in my life to prevent that, but figured after the election I'd see how good Ol AT P&N was faring... (and bummer about AT end times... )
To answer your question Moonbeam, it's hard to hold almost any individual political non-professional Lefty, or Gullible Suburbanite and/or Never Trumper, responsible to take "revenge" on. These are generally either no/low information voters or (willing or un-willing) Goebbels victim level indoctrinated individuals who actually Believe (B intentionally cap'd, as is reference to Him when referring to God in the bible as that is the cult like belief level) whatever narratives the Left PR wing (almost the totality of mainstream media/"journalists", BigTech ((minus for the most part X now that Elon saved it)), Academia, and Hollywood/NY programming; all together probably a $1T/yr free 24/7/365 indoctrination machine to the fascist Dem/Swamp party) have run on them, and everyone they associate with, to create a head nodding confirmation bias circle jerk. It's like watching 5 year olds all agree how awesome Santa is...you can't take revenge on that.
Since absolutely no one can fix the damage the Wuhan Flu biological warfare did to the economy, or the fascist Dem/Swamp past 4 years, Orange Man Bad!, nor anyone else, will be able to fix the fuckery...not without a hard correction that will be extremely unpopular and the Left PR wing will scream 24/7/365 that it's OMB! and the Reps fault...and since the voting Sheeple have very short memories... Take comfort that in 2026 the Dems will regain at least the House (it's looking like the Reps will keep it with an even slimmer majority, and since they have RINOs and NeoCons that will happily destroy the country further, it'll be exceedingly hard to accomplish anything meaningful, where-as the Dems have a cohesive uniparty) We'll all get Impeachment 3.0 soon as they're sworn in to really gridlock the Fed gov. Then in 2028 since absolutely nothing will be better, save for perhaps the illegal invasion and Ukraine, you'll have a better than even chance of getting a Dem POTUS as well.
The best those of us that voted non-fascist can hope for is OMB! picks good people to surround himself with this time, instead of being stuck with who the NeoCons gave him in 2016, and actually lock down the border in a very short less than 2 years, clean out the FBI and DoJ, Dept of Education, Dept of Health, etc. so as to just watch it all go back to being its Swamp self once the Dems are back in Power in 2028. Attempts to end the fascism and malfeasance in DC and the proudly shameless Lefty states will be almost impossible to fix in such a short amount of time, if ever. For the middle and Right, we just need a nice national divorce to save what can be saved, but since that'll never happen, we'll just continue to devolve into national deviance...
Chuck
Why should there be any repercussions? My take is that the majority of Americans decided the democrats have leaned a little to far left, embraced some ideas that didn't sit right with them. There is no need or call for vengeance.Democrats lost the support of many on the left this election, people who were calling people on the right scum, and not it's conservatives in the drivers seat. What kind of revenge do you want to take. What should their fate be? Clearly we on the left are looked at as evil and took a hard fall. How should payback time look?
I assumed you would think that. I’m looking forward to the better more conservative world I have been brainwashed not to expect.Why should there be any repercussions? My take is that the majority of Americans decided the democrats have leaned a little to far left, embraced some ideas that didn't sit right with them. There is no need or call for vengeance.
That’s easy. What values do conservatives have that liberals are piss poor at. You have no respect for the sacred, for authority, for the church and have no loyalty to the group. You are dangerously materialistic and care about everybody but us. You are destructive of order which is fragile and hard to rebuild if lost. Anybody with moral values can feel it so don’t bother claiming it’s not so.Of course Greenman can't list how Democrats went too far left. He thinks that because he was told to think that.
And Trump values all those things. Respect for the sacred, respect for authority, respect for the church, and above all, he is loyal to the group. He's not materialistic and cares about them. He would never destroy order because he knows it is fragile and hard to rebuild if lost.That’s easy. What values do conservatives have that liberals are piss poor at. You have no respect for the sacred, for authority, for the church and have no loyalty to the group. You are dangerously materialistic and care about everybody but us. You are destructive of order which is fragile and hard to rebuild if lost. Anybody with moral values can feel it so don’t bother claiming it’s not so.
He is indeed all those things, sacred, authoritarian, loyal to the group and order itself. You don't understand the difference between having sacred and materialistic values. The idea that virtue isn't dictated from on high but a so called humanistic subjective value is materialism run wild.And Trump values all those things. Respect for the sacred, respect for authority, respect for the church, and above all, he is loyal to the group. He's not materialistic and cares about them. He would never destroy order because he knows it is fragile and hard to rebuild if lost.
You really don't think they'll take at least one chamber of Congress in 2026 or the Executive in 2028???God, I wish I were that optimistic.
What I see is a majority that believes in Armageddon and we create what we fear. A vote for Trump is on the order of delusional as being raptured up is. It’s now just a question of who goes first. My guess is political opponents and then immigrants. The majority will let it happen just like the Germans did. The proof is in who we elected. This time sadly, there will be no democratic superpower to bring the guilty to task.You really don't think they'll take at least one chamber of Congress in 2026 or the Executive in 2028???
If your opinion has zero ground to stand on, then your guess is a lot lighter than a fart in the win. Wrong and wrong. Look at how some of the red states voted on some of their passed ballot measures. Too left my ass lmao...Why should there be any repercussions? My take is that the majority of Americans decided the democrats have leaned a little to far left, embraced some ideas that didn't sit right with them. There is no need or call for vengeance.
pre-note: I stopped posting here because I never had the time to keep up with threads leaving conversations hanging, and not much has changed in my life to prevent that, but figured after the election I'd see how good Ol AT P&N was faring... (and bummer about AT end times... )
To answer your question Moonbeam, it's hard to hold almost any individual political non-professional Lefty, or Gullible Suburbanite and/or Never Trumper, responsible to take "revenge" on. These are generally either no/low information voters or (willing or un-willing) Goebbels victim level indoctrinated individuals who actually Believe (B intentionally cap'd, as is reference to Him when referring to God in the bible as that is the cult like belief level) whatever narratives the Left PR wing (almost the totality of mainstream media/"journalists", BigTech ((minus for the most part X now that Elon saved it)), Academia, and Hollywood/NY programming; all together probably a $1T/yr free 24/7/365 indoctrination machine to the fascist Dem/Swamp party) have run on them, and everyone they associate with, to create a head nodding confirmation bias circle jerk. It's like watching 5 year olds all agree how awesome Santa is...you can't take revenge on that.
Since absolutely no one can fix the damage the Wuhan Flu biological warfare did to the economy, or the fascist Dem/Swamp past 4 years, Orange Man Bad!, nor anyone else, will be able to fix the fuckery...not without a hard correction that will be extremely unpopular and the Left PR wing will scream 24/7/365 that it's OMB! and the Reps fault...and since the voting Sheeple have very short memories... Take comfort that in 2026 the Dems will regain at least the House (it's looking like the Reps will keep it with an even slimmer majority, and since they have RINOs and NeoCons that will happily destroy the country further, it'll be exceedingly hard to accomplish anything meaningful, where-as the Dems have a cohesive uniparty) We'll all get Impeachment 3.0 soon as they're sworn in to really gridlock the Fed gov. Then in 2028 since absolutely nothing will be better, save for perhaps the illegal invasion and Ukraine, you'll have a better than even chance of getting a Dem POTUS as well.
The best those of us that voted non-fascist can hope for is OMB! picks good people to surround himself with this time, instead of being stuck with who the NeoCons gave him in 2016, and actually lock down the border in a very short less than 2 years, clean out the FBI and DoJ, Dept of Education, Dept of Health, etc. so as to just watch it all go back to being its Swamp self once the Dems are back in Power in 2028. Attempts to end the fascism and malfeasance in DC and the proudly shameless Lefty states will be almost impossible to fix in such a short amount of time, if ever. For the middle and Right, we just need a nice national divorce to save what can be saved, but since that'll never happen, we'll just continue to devolve into national deviance...
Chuck
In guessing there will be another Holocaust that never happened.Well look at Trumps messaging, its pretty simple, his political enemies and immigrants. If his supporters could put on Gestapo style trenchcoats and wield the same mandate then everyone who didnt lick boots would suffer.
What kind of conversations do you think Roger Stone and proud boys are having right now?
Trifecta and a toppled scotus. You are fucked.
Perhaps you can appreciate the magnitude of delusion that is required not to see they voted for someone like that. Only bad people could vote for a Trump about whom what you say is true, and they are the guardians of the good. Obviously you are mistaken.You have me intrigued about your post. I'm interested in what is "too far left" to you. Would you care to explain that in more detail?
And due to my clearly not understanding how a convicted felon, tax cheat, adulterating sex abuser, stealer of top secret gov't documents and the enabler of taking away women's rights can even be remotely qualified to hold any gov't office let alone the highest one of the land, I'd like to know what your thoughts are as far as why all of these obviously disqualifying factors didn't matter to the folks who voted for him. It would explain a lot coming from your particular point of view.
I'm good with that, America loves the democrats so much they gave republican's the house, the senate, and the presidency. Enjoy the win.If your opinion has zero ground to stand on, then your guess is a lot lighter than a fart in the win. Wrong and wrong. Look at how some of the red states voted on some of their passed ballot measures. Too left my ass lmao...
So was it your hatred of the Democrats that made you support the guy convicted of dozens of felonies, found liable for rape, and who attempted a coup?I'm good with that, America loves the democrats so much they gave republican's the house, the senate, and the presidency. Enjoy the win.