The performance at 1080p is how those CPUs will stretch their legs when graphics cards are faster.Are there any 4K benchmarks comparing 9800X3D and 7800X3D? All the youtube videos I see are 1080p, it would help to see more realistic conditions.
Ah gotcha. We all probably misunderstood your original message as being sincere questions looking for answers.lol I'm old school and don't have the patience to watch the whole video. Just flip to the benchmarks and the last few minutes.
The only major argument I have against the 9800x3d is the price. Which has been my biggest complaint with AMD for 4 years now, really since 2017. Depending on where you are in the curve/wave of upgrades or needing a new system it generally pays to wait out AMD 6-12+ months for the best value and stable products. For many people, the price/perf is just not worth it for their needs and historically I just do not like seeing an 8core cpu be $450.
I saw that video more carefully and see his point but the main question most people have is how much of a difference will they notice over their existing X CPU with specific current games they like. As the video shows, different games behave very differently as the resolution increases. 1080p is not useless but does not give the full picture either, you have to look at both that and 4K/DLSS.Ah gotcha. We all probably misunderstood your original message as being sincere questions looking for answers.
I saw that video more carefully and see his point but the main question most people have is how much of a difference will they notice over their existing X CPU with specific current games they like. As the video shows, different games behave very differently as the resolution increases. 1080p is not useless but does not give the full picture either, you have to look at both that and 4K/DLSS.
The one game I play that is a lot faster is Starfield. It might be a good time to pick this up whenever I get around to playing its DLC.
1440p is the best. Once you use it you can’t go back to 1080p and it’s not as demanding as 4K. A fellow 1440p person tooI guess suckers like me using probably the second most common resolution of 1440p are out of luck then?
And 1440p DLSS is close to 1080p.4K with quality DLSS is probably close to 1440p anyway.
You can't ignore inflation (money "printing", which lowers the value of the existing and new money) when you complain about high(er) prices.Bringing up inflation for something that is a luxury good
We are getting more though. For the retail price of 12700K in Dec 2021 when I built may last system, today I could buy the 9900X or the 265K. We went from 8P+4E to 12P or 8P+12E for roughly the same price, inflation not accounted for. The 9990X launched with higher MSRP than the 12700K but quickly adjusted down based on demand. That's the thing with demand, works both ways and in the case of the vanilla chips it's beneficial for value shoppers while 3D chips are surging right now, they'll go down eventually.No, it is the same argument often used for gpu price increases giving us x60 class cards with a 128bit bus and 8gb vram at $300-400. You're not getting more for your money overall
We are getting more though. For the retail price of 12700K in Dec 2021 when I built may last system, today I could buy the 9900X or the 265K. We went from 8P+4E to 12P or 8P+12E for roughly the same price, inflation not accounted for. The 9990X launched with higher MSRP than the 12700K but quickly adjusted down based on demand. That's the thing with demand, works both ways and in the case of the vanilla chips it's beneficial for value shoppers while 3D chips are surging right now, they'll go down eventually.
It gets even better for someone like me who's sweet spot for productivity is around 8P cores. Both the 9700X and the 245K are 20% cheaper than the 12700K I bought 3 years ago, and they're faster too. Inflation not included. If GPU pricing were anything like CPU pricing, we'd be chilling.
We can parody the talking points as well.For some reason Nvidia (and perhaps AMD) get a pass on inflation when it comes to GPU's but when it comes to CPU's that argument falls apart entirely.
3440x1440 is Gods own gaming resolution!1440p is the best.
+1 as an Ultrawide user perfect res to avoid the 4k performance and wallet tax.3440x1440 is Gods own gaming resolution!
So you need more than a 14100f then? Because if you are gaming at 4K that's all you need; someone posted a very authoritative video on the last page proving it. I know every reputable outlet disagrees, but who are you going to believe? The army of AMD neanderthal marketer accounts on message boards, reddit, youtube, and those virgin trust pilot reviewers? Or a youtube rando and userbenchmark?+1 as an Ultrawide user perfect res to avoid the 4k performance and wallet tax.
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If you buy CPUs as toys, the 9800x3d is a nice toy.I saw that video more carefully and see his point but the main question most people have is how much of a difference will they notice over their existing X CPU with specific current games they like. As the video shows, different games behave very differently as the resolution increases. 1080p is not useless but does not give the full picture either, you have to look at both that and 4K/DLSS.
The one game I play that is a lot faster is Starfield. It might be a good time to pick this up whenever I get around to playing its DLC.
I concur. The market at the moment does create extenuating circumstances to factor in however. As some can sell their Zen 4 3D for more than they paid for it.Buying CPUs every gen because of the increased gaming performance is a waste of money. Even buying new GPUs every gen is likely to be a waste of money and you can get much bigger performance gains in games.
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