A question for those on the right who won. Is it payback time and how should that look.

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Fenixgoon

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Quoted for truth.
"You ignorant racist assholes better vote for us" doesn't appear to be a winning strategy. Though I'm willing to admit it's possible that they just didn't lean on it hard enough. Us stupid people are a touch slow on the uptake.
Waiting for where Harris campaigned on that.

And if you don't want to be called a racist or a Nazi, don't associate with racists and Nazis. It's not rocket science.

I imagine you will quote my post as an example of how liberals are being mean and name calling. To which I will ask the question, if you're not associating with racists and Nazis, why do you feel targeted by that message?

When the leader of a party says that immigrants are poisoning the blood of the country, you call him a fucking fascist and racist and Nazi because that's exactly how he is acting and the message he is spreading. Hitler used that very kind of language.
 
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HomerJS

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Quoted for truth.
"You ignorant racist assholes better vote for us" doesn't appear to be a winning strategy. Though I'm willing to admit it's possible that they just didn't lean on it hard enough. Us stupid people are a touch slow on the uptake.
You also need to look at my Roy Moore example and that tells you everything you need to know what we are dealing with on the right.
 

Moonbeam

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HomerJS

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Waiting for where Harris campaigned on that.

And if you don't want to be called a racist or a Nazi, don't associate with racists and Nazis. It's not rocket science.

I imagine you will quote my post as an example of how liberals are being mean and name calling. To which I will ask the question, if you're not associating with racists and Nazis, why do you feel targeted by that message?

When the leader of a party says that immigrants are poisoning the blood of the country, you call him a fucking fascist and racist and Nazi because that's exactly how he is acting and the message he is spreading. Hitler used that very kind of language.
He also invited a prominent white nationalist to his house for dinner. And you want the rest of us to believe you are not one of them??
 

fskimospy

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Waiting for where Harris campaigned on that.

And if you don't want to be called a racist or a Nazi, don't associate with racists and Nazis. It's not rocket science.

I imagine you will quote my post as an example of how liberals are being mean and name calling. To which I will ask the question, if you're not associating with racists and Nazis, why do you feel targeted by that message?

When the leader of a party says that immigrants are poisoning the blood of the country, you call him a fucking fascist and racist and Nazi because that's exactly how he is acting and the message he is spreading. Hitler used that very kind of language.
It's also darkly funny that someone who voted for Trump wants to lecture people on why insulting others is bad.
 

brycejones

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No, You shit all over anyone that doesn't hold your views.

Quoted for truth.
"You ignorant racist assholes better vote for us" doesn't appear to be a winning strategy. Though I'm willing to admit it's possible that they just didn't lean on it hard enough. Us stupid people are a touch slow on the uptake.
Oh look things that didn't happen from the Harris campaign.
 
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Moonbeam

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trenchfoot

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He also invited a prominent white nationalist to his house for dinner. And you want the rest of us to believe you are not one of them??

Guilt by association isn't something a lot of Trump advocates don't take kindly to. They like what Trump symbolizes because they feel the same way, they just don't like being called out on it. Millions of Trump supporters have been trying to have their cake and eating it too and fuck all'a y'all if it's wrong to be that way. It's just the way things have to be in order to admire and support a convicted felonious sex abuser. Stockholm Syndrome gone apeshit wild.

What's most important for a lot of them is to lash back at their critics turned enemies, never mind that there is no common sense reason to elect Trump back in office. It doesn't HAVE to make any sense at all. That's become abundantly clear over the years that Trump was rightfully targeted as Public Enemy #1.

With the GOP's successful efforts at brain fucking the deplorables <--(oops*) into die hard militant supremacists, anarchists, insurrectionists and being openly racist about their affections for their own racist Trump, along with the holier than thou political activist Christians that include among their flock the LGBTQ bashers who think being that way just ain't right and don't deserve to sit at the table with "normal" humans despite their scripture describing that all of humanity are God's children, the Repub spin machine has pretty much covered the gamut of demographics that can be seduced into their bigoted way of thinking.

I look at what Trump and the Republican party has done to fill the masses with hate. fear and suspicion of their fellow Americans in order to seize power for themselves and it makes me more sad than angered of it all.

edit - added the word "don't" in my opening sentence
 
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sao123

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That’s easy. What values do conservatives have that liberals are piss poor at. You have no respect for the sacred, for authority, for the church and have no loyalty to the group. You are dangerously materialistic and care about everybody but us. You are destructive of order which is fragile and hard to rebuild if lost. Anybody with moral values can feel it so don’t bother claiming it’s not so.

You seem to have left out objective morality, meritocracy as a way of living, and the core nuclear family.
 

ivwshane

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“I was against what happened on 1/6 and said they should be prosecuted accordingly”, “I also support the guy that said he was going to pardon those who were prosecuted and found guilty”

The mental gymnastics one must do in order to support Trump is, quite frankly, amazing.


F-ing 🤡
 

trenchfoot

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“I was against what happened on 1/6 and said they should be prosecuted accordingly”, “I also support the guy that said he was going to pardon those who were prosecuted and found guilty”

The mental gymnastics one must do in order to support Trump is, quite frankly, amazing.


F-ing 🤡

Yet they've been doing it so effortlessly, like they've been doing it for ages out of sheer necessity and survival.
 

Fenixgoon

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You seem to have left out objective morality, meritocracy as a way of living, and the core nuclear family.
The great irony is conservatives have no morals, worship wealth as the only measure of morality and success, and don't give a shit about families.

This is all embodied in Trump. You cannot champion Trump and claim any sort of moral high ground. He is the very antithesis of everything conservatives claim to believe in (and practice the exact opposite). Trump is everything conservatives want to be, but don't want to admit.
 

eelw

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But leopard face eating. McCarty better be planning on moving. And would cannon be spiteful and release everything she has?
 

sao123

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The great irony is conservatives have no morals, worship wealth as the only measure of morality and success, and don't give a shit about families.

This is all embodied in Trump. You cannot champion Trump and claim any sort of moral high ground. He is the very antithesis of everything conservatives claim to believe in (and practice the exact opposite). Trump is everything conservatives want to be, but don't want to admit.

More verbal diarrhea that proves you don't understand why Evangelicals and Christian Nationalists conservatives vote for what they do.
 

brycejones

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More verbal diarrhea that proves you don't understand why Evangelicals and Christian Nationalists conservatives vote for what they do.
Nope he was spot on. You all are so far removed from Christ it isn’t even funny. But par for the course coming from someone who doesn’t understand his rural lifestyle is subsidized by cities.
 
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“I was against what happened on 1/6 and said they should be prosecuted accordingly”, “I also support the guy that said he was going to pardon those who were prosecuted and found guilty”

The mental gymnastics one must do in order to support Trump is, quite frankly, amazing.


F-ing 🤡
Undecided voters never beating the charge of hitting every branch on their fall from the stupid tree.
 

dank69

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More verbal diarrhea that proves you don't understand why Evangelicals and Christian Nationalists conservatives vote for what they do.
You voted for a guy that has 5 kids by 3 different women. Is that how we define the nuclear family?
 

Xcobra

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I'm good with that, America loves the democrats so much they gave republican's the house, the senate, and the presidency. Enjoy the win.
Sure, but again, you're wrong to nth degree on what Americans want lol
 

Moonbeam

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You seem to have left out objective morality, meritocracy as a way of living, and the core nuclear family.
Those could be probably charitably be inferred from the list I did give, but the number of moral values possessed on the right, and naturally in the right's own opinions, could easily prove exhausting to individually enumerate, They would be not just nearly infinite in number but to be believable would need to include all the imaginary ones too.

But I take your point. I know all there is to know about being underappreciated. I'm one of the world's greatest nobodies and do you think I can get any credit for it. Liberals and conservatives alike on this board spend inordinate amounts of energy denigrating my worthless non-existent ass. What the fuck is that? I'm a nobody....DUH! Tell me something I don't know.

The thing for me is that I favor the big tent of conservative moral beliefs over the limited ones in favor with liberals. The only thing about the differences I see is that liberals while holding to an inferior number of moral concerns are not nearly the hypocrites conservatives are with it comes to putting them into action. Conservatism is the fine art of self deception incarnate.

Nobody feels victimized by meritocracy who didn't learn how to see others as inferior by being made to feel that way themselves. There are two kinds of merit. Love of the value of others because you love yourself, and feeling superior to others because you have convinced yourself that everybody else is a piece of shit. You with the dumb way on that, I fear. The woke know you're really OK and deserving of joy. Join them and be happy!
 

brandonbull

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Americans are so cool with sexual assaulters they elected one.

You are one of those people who have no clue when it comes to history which answers your own post.

BTW - Have you admitted to any women in your orbit your approval of sexual assault yet?
Sexual assault? Bill Clinton has entered the chat.
 

Moonbeam

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I think the most likely answer is that people were mad about inflation and punished the incumbents.

In fact if you look at swing states you will see that the swing towards Republicans in those states was less than in noncompetitive states. This indicates that the more people learned about the messages of the parties the less inclined they were to support Republicans. This is not exactly surprising as 'Democrats are importing Mexican criminals to make them transgender in prison' is not a message that normal people find compelling.
I would just leave the most likely answer is that people are mad, literally mentally ill. Our culture is structured on a system of beliefs that creates anger that is directed at the self and projected as blame on others. Economic insecurity is just one big way that manifests. Millions of people around the world are far far more mentally happy than Americans are and have almost nothing.
 
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