Look at how expensive just Strix Point is.
It's KRK. HPT is poverty stuff, not gaming laptops.For AMD+AMD I would expect Hawk+RDNA4 if AMD can manage to get some deals this time.
Because ARL sucks at video games.Case in point - Golden Pig said like a week or two ago predicting that Blackwell gaming laptops are going to be basically Raptor Lake based
That game on that map is insanely CPU limited, I know as I've played it first on 5950X, then on 7600X (big improvement) and finally on 7800X3D where I could finally maintain 60FPS in 1440p.wow that's absolutely insane, ~30fps gain on 4K
I would think they would be more for idle power savings, but we'll see.Sooo ... Have we heard anything more about the rumored Zen5LP cores in strix halo (on the SOC die, not on the CCD). I'm kind of curious if they will increase battery life in light loads a lot compared to strix point.
I detuned my CPU to give you some answersI have a request for anyone with a 9950X. Can you run CB R23 MT and report the frequency, power, and max temp shown in HWinfo during the run for stock settings? Also the score? Also the cooling you are using. Looking at building a rig and want to know what to expect.
…or to a decent tower-type air cooler?makes no difference to CPU temps compared to standard AIO 240mm at these settings
I know this is Zen 5 thread, but Hardware Canucks did a nice comparison of a couple of Zen4 CPUs with different types of coolers shortly after Zen 4 was released. They found that there is a little but of a difference in temps and as a result, max frequency, but it's not quite as big as many suspected. There are time stamps in the description if you want to just skip to the charts.…or to a decent tower-type air cooler?
(I can't say myself for sure. While I do use air coolers on several CPUs with similar or even higher wattage, and with rather low fan speeds while temperatures are lower than these, my clock speeds are also lower than these, by quite a bit.)
I think so. I've used tower cooler on 5950X pushing 200W and swap to water helped on long duration tests, but quick Cinebench run is not able to heat soak decent air cooler.…or to a decent tower-type air cooler?
(I can't say myself for sure. While I do use air coolers on several CPUs with similar or even higher wattage, and with rather low fan speeds while temperatures are lower than these, my clock speeds are also lower than these, by quite a bit.)
Fantastic! Thank you.I detuned my CPU to give you some answers
View attachment 111593
MB stock settings all AUTO apart from memory which is on A-Die profile, but nothing crazy.
Watercooled with a Corsair XC7 block and 480mm + 360mm rads (makes no difference to CPU temps compared to standard AIO 240mm at these settings).
Looks like the 9950X is running 8 cores at 5GHz and 8 at 4.65GHz for an average clock of 4.825GHz. Do you know why the 9950X runs some cores higher and some lower? Seems like efficiency would be better if all cores were run at the same frequency, right?
It is normal to have that much frequency difference between CCD's?One CCD is better binned.
NoIt is normal to have that much frequency difference between CCD's?
My sample is scoring well, but it has large spread between CCDs.It is normal to have that much frequency difference between CCD's?
Thanks for the information and running the test. Great CPU, no doubt about.My sample is scoring well, but it has large spread between CCDs.
Lower clocks on 2nd CCD are normal, all dual CCD Ryzen CPUs behave like this as one CCD is picked for max. freq. and the other for power efficiency.
Obviously, with Core Optimizer at -30 for CCD2 and PBO bumped to 220W 2nd CCD maintains 5GHz in Cinebench with ease.
As for cooling, this CPU runs cooler than my 7800X3D ran and definitely cooler than 5950X when set to 200W.
So there you have it. At the same "real world" power number of 200W (around where I think most people run these parts) the 9950X is about 20% more performant than the 14900K.
It's the default PPT limit of 9950X, down from 230 W default of its predecessor.I assume you set power limit at 200W?
So was the case with 7950x, that keeps 5GHz across both CCDs under load on default settings. The better bin came into equation only at frequencies above 5GHz imo.One CCD is better binned.
I decided to do a quick run at static 5GHz 1.1V setting, all else equal to my last run. This is by no means the lowest Vcore I can use, just one I picked up looking at auto PBO voltages.Thanks for the information and running the test. Great CPU, no doubt about.