How easy is it to spread misinformation…

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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I just saw a segment on Chris Hayes (msnbc) and he talked about Jared Goff of the Detroit lions having a bad game with 4 interceptions. Well during that game a Twitter user tweeted that Goff has had 6 gashes where he threw 4 interceptions and he was 6-0 when that happenes.

The tweet took off and the stat was repeated on a network sports show where one pundit asked the other, “is that stat true?”, to which they said, “Yes”.


Turns out the guy who tweeted that later tweeted out, “if you ever wondered how fast disinformation spreads, I complete made up that last tweet”. (Or something to that effect).

If I find the clip I’ll post it but it really hits home just how bad it is.

Anyone else see it?
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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the internet was such a wretched idea. Across a population of people, it is the most dangerous weapon imaginable. To a person, none of this stuff really matters. But you start dealing with groups and large populations, the amount of destruction that can be done to human thinking, progress, health and safety is just unmatched by anything we can do to stop it.

That's what we are.
 

gothuevos

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the internet was such a wretched idea. Across a population of people, it is the most dangerous weapon imaginable. To a person, none of this stuff really matters. But you start dealing with groups and large populations, the amount of destruction that can be done to human thinking, progress, health and safety is just unmatched by anything we can do to stop it.

That's what we are.

The internet was a mistake.
 

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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The internet was a mistake.

I disagree. It just needs better safeguards.

I think social media should offer a setting that will automatically mute misinformation or at the very least give a notification. The reason it should be an option is because you know there will be push back if it’s automatic (how else will our adversaries topple our democracy).
 

[DHT]Osiris

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the internet was such a wretched idea. Across a population of people, it is the most dangerous weapon imaginable. To a person, none of this stuff really matters. But you start dealing with groups and large populations, the amount of destruction that can be done to human thinking, progress, health and safety is just unmatched by anything we can do to stop it.

That's what we are.
I've said this before, the internet was a great idea. Letting everyone on it was terrible. It should have stayed a niche thing for nerds to do nerd shit on.
 
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I just saw a segment on Chris Hayes (msnbc) and he talked about Jared Goff of the Detroit lions having a bad game with 4 interceptions. Well during that game a Twitter user tweeted that Goff has had 6 gashes where he threw 4 interceptions and he was 6-0 when that happenes.

The tweet took off and the stat was repeated on a network sports show where one pundit asked the other, “is that stat true?”, to which they said, “Yes”.


Turns out the guy who tweeted that later tweeted out, “if you ever wondered how fast disinformation spreads, I complete made up that last tweet”. (Or something to that effect).

If I find the clip I’ll post it but it really hits home just how bad it is.

Anyone else see it?
Randomly found it.
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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A hundred years ago: "A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on" and various permutations thereof

This is why I never joined the Twitter-sphere of "omg repost [insert viral topic]".

My memory is hazy on the precise details, but one of the most poignant examples I can think of was when there was a short video about stopping some African crime lord, but turns out he'd been out of action/power for some time and the film director got caught with an underage girl.
Pretty sure a lot of people felt like idiots for reposting that video. Or worse, maybe they didn't 🤯
 

Linux23

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Apr 9, 2000
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I've said this before, the internet was a great idea. Letting everyone on it was terrible. It should have stayed a niche thing for nerds to do nerd shit on.
you've read my mind. kick out the dullards and leave the real interneting to us dweebs and geeks.
 
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compcons

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Oct 22, 2004
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I disagree. It just needs better safeguards.

I think social media should offer a setting that will automatically mute misinformation or at the very least give a notification. The reason it should be an option is because you know there will be push back if it’s automatic (how else will our adversaries topple our democracy).
The sad thing is the people who get to control if there are safeguards are the ones who benefit from there being no safeguards. They will claim freedom even if it just a flag of some sort stating the thing is a lie.

We shouldn't need "user addeded context." That shit should be automatic. But calling out bullshit hurts the feelings of the shitty people who vote for the shitty people.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Dec 15, 2015
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The sad thing is the people who get to control if there are safeguards are the ones who benefit from there being no safeguards. They will claim freedom even if it just a flag of some sort stating the thing is a lie.

We shouldn't need "user addeded context." That shit should be automatic. But calling out bullshit hurts the feelings of the shitty people who vote for the shitty people.
I'd also like to point out how absolutely, phenomenally, incredible it is that the root DNS servers (the thing that makes it so you can type in google.com and actually go to google) are just controlled by a council of greybeards at ICANN/IANA, and that somehow has never been touched. I'm frankly shocked no Republicans have gone after them (not to give them any ideas). You could effectively blackhole every institution you don't like and I don't think there's any real legal framework around that.
 

amenx

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the internet was such a wretched idea. Across a population of people, it is the most dangerous weapon imaginable. To a person, none of this stuff really matters. But you start dealing with groups and large populations, the amount of destruction that can be done to human thinking, progress, health and safety is just unmatched by anything we can do to stop it.

That's what we are.
Without the internet, Fox News would still have sway over half the population. So you're not much better without it.
 

Moonbeam

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I just saw a segment on Chris Hayes (msnbc) and he talked about Jared Goff of the Detroit lions having a bad game with 4 interceptions. Well during that game a Twitter user tweeted that Goff has had 6 gashes where he threw 4 interceptions and he was 6-0 when that happenes.

The tweet took off and the stat was repeated on a network sports show where one pundit asked the other, “is that stat true?”, to which they said, “Yes”.


Turns out the guy who tweeted that later tweeted out, “if you ever wondered how fast disinformation spreads, I complete made up that last tweet”. (Or something to that effect).

If I find the clip I’ll post it but it really hits home just how bad it is.

Anyone else see it?
I am having trouble believing this. I tweeted that people hate themselves and it went nowhere. People know a lie when they hear it apparently. Your idea, I think, needs some work. 😉😙
 

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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I am having trouble believing this. I tweeted that people hate themselves and it went nowhere. People know a lie when they hear it apparently. Your idea, I think, needs some work. 😉😙
My idea? I’m just repeating a true story.
 
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