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Scummy for reporting truth? Or something else?
they used frame Gen on AMD but didn't use it on Intel and the biggest factor the Image Quality with traditional settings image quality would be nearly the same Upscalers/FG just make it difficult to compare
 

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Yes i can see their point same way AMD uses many Intel AVX-512 optimizations for their HW to show in Benchmarks and Not using AMX.
Intel is not much better in that regard but better than AMD
 
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It's just as bad if NVIDIA would do that and use DLSS3 frame gen. Frame gen is smoothening, not performance. It shouldn't be used like this. Using frame gen on sub 60 fps makes hardly any sense anyway. At least they did show native performance.
I was thinking exactly that; it's like AMD is copying the Nvidia playbook to use against Intel. Nvidia tactics are as ruthless and gaslighting as it gets.

The frame gen issue is more prominent to mouse and keyboard. Controllers, especially on handhelds with the small screens, make upscaling at lower res, and frame gen, more useful. Even when starting from sub 60. Millions of console gamers blissfully play at 30.

Intel has wood to chop yet. Anything Nvidia has, you need to have, and that includes your own FG method. Because once the Nvidia APUs show up, the fight is going to get way harder than it is now. Maybe not the first one or two iterations, but it's coming. Nvidia is the Juggernaut.
 

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Belive it or not the real juggernaut are the fabs this is the only reason Intel had the share it has if their foundry becomes healthy and they get competitive products it will be difficult for anyone else
 

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BMG would need to the highest SKU at $399 for 16GB VRAM. Looking at Lunar Lake, I can see this generation being a win if the drivers are good.
 

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Cause of his mentality he is bit paranoid and kills competition before it kills him
True, but that’s also his strength. If Intel brought Nvidia in the early 2000s then it not be the company it is today. He acts early and executes.

If BMG is good and cuts into Blackwell’s sales I can see Jensen reducing prices. It’s ultimately good for the consumer.
 

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Lisa Su would also care, after all RDNA4 is going after marketshare. That’s where the focus is next gen for AMD.
 
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Lisa Su would also care, after all RDNA4 is going after marketshare. That’s where the focus is next gen for AMD.
Maybe but if AMD users wanted something better, they would've switched to Nvidia long ago. Whatever users AMD's got right now, they went with AMD knowing Radeon's limitations. Even some of them switching to Intel would be surprising, for me at least.
 

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Maybe but if AMD users wanted something better, they would've switched to Nvidia long ago. Whatever users AMD's got right now, they went with AMD knowing Radeon's limitations. Even some of them switching to Intel would be surprising, for me at least.
Radeon’s advantage over Nvidia was that they offered more VRAM and more raster performance for less price. Radeon also has better Linux drivers so Linux users tend to use Radeon. They also tend be much cheaper in Non-western markets.

Intel would be offering both those advantages and plus couple that with Intel’s media engines being better than Nvidias and AMD. AMD would in a rough spot if BMG is good and it would also give trouble to the 5060/5070.
 

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Nvidia is the most closed sourced company out of the three and Intel is the most open AMD is in middle but everything Nvidia does is always proprietary wonder when government/customer will force second sourcing CUDA 🤣 like we had with x86
 
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