what makes a design server-derived? If it’s finally moving to mobile focused does this this mean better idle power consumption?
No? It's the opposite with APUs moving towards chiplets instead.
If it’s finally moving to mobile focused does this this mean better idle power consumption?
There's loads they can do and some really good points above my post.The most amd can do is to slash AVX512 for client, that's it
Not much for 'Client' title
wrong.The most amd can do is to slash AVX512 for client, that's it
Client means client.Not much for 'Client' title
Client and server are made with the same chips, except different billing. That would be a foolish change. For both client and server.The most amd can do is to slash AVX512 for client, that's it
Not much for 'Client' title
Low-effort poast. Try again.Guys already answered without being pretentios, you are not Sasuke Uchiha. Meds
Low-effort post. Try again.I'm not taking seriously some mid-life crisis dude who thinks one-liners make him look cool. Behind those tough words is Mr. 40%, who gets bullied on every platform he uses. Meds, kiddo.
Very low-effort bait. Try again.
Can't even bait properly. Complete ineptitude.You are the one who can't seem to ignore it, go play with your phone's collection, Uchiha
Meds
Today... Today they're made with the same CCDs.Client and server are made with the same chips, except different billing. That would be a foolish change. For both client and server.
do you have a link for that ??Today... Today they're made with the same CCDs.
Not tomorrow. Server gets it's own CCDs and mobile/desktop merge and do their own thing.
Its not a lot, but when you compare AMD's headcount to Intel's, it's a bit concerning that all AMD can think to do is to follow the usual Harvard Business School MBA(tm) strategy of cutting jobs in the face of increasing revenue/profits. That would have to be some serious deadweight to really justify the job cuts.4% does not seem too noteworthy to me
Possibly; however, I think it more likely that AMD will offer up SOME of the same CCD's for both. Today, desktop CCD's top out at 8. Turin Dense has its own 16 core Zen 5 CCD's. I believe that we will see a 16 core CCD for desktop with Zen 6 giving a possible 32 core, 64 thread beast. That CCD will likely be shared with server. I doubt AMD will be putting a 32 core CCD on desktop though.Today... Today they're made with the same CCDs.
Not tomorrow. Server gets it's own CCDs and mobile/desktop merge and do their own thing.
I have a feeling they are trimming up the waist line in anticipation of an acquisition or other large investment.Its not a lot, but when you compare AMD's headcount to Intel's, it's a bit concerning that all AMD can think to do is to follow the usual Harvard Business School MBA(tm) strategy of cutting jobs in the face of increasing revenue/profits. That would have to be some serious deadweight to really justify the job cuts.
I don't know why anybody puts any weight in that roadmap. It says Zen6 is coming in 2024. If it was ever accurate (which I doubt) it is way out of date now.On the "leaked" slide that was circulated here a while back, they were showing an expected total performance uplift for Zen6 over Zen 5 of about 10% or so. I don't think going from 16 to 32 cores on desktop would give so little.
I just don't think we'll see server CCDs on normal AM5 processors. Aside from what a few of our more trusted posters have said in the past, there's no competitive need for server CCDs with full blown AVX512 implementations on desktop, especially where they will hit a brick wall with memory throughput.
You may be right. Kinda makes me wonder if it's related to the Xilinx acquisition.I have a feeling they are trimming up the waist line in anticipation of an acquisition or other large investment.
We don't have any reason to believe that it will be greater than the Zen 5 improvement over Zen 4, and that was famously struggling to get to 10% in most cases, requiring a windows patch that also helped Zen4, and an AGESA patch to help MT. Zen 5 was supposed to be a complete overhaul. Zen 6 is supposedly a fleshing out.I don't know why anybody puts any weight in that roadmap. It says Zen6 is coming in 2024. If it was ever accurate (which I doubt) it is way out of date now.
IPC not perf.On the "leaked" slide that was circulated here a while back, they were showing an expected total performance uplift for Zen6 over Zen 5 of about 10% or so.
They obviously had that planned or you think they didn't know their own pipeline, less than a year from then?Bad timing, should have reserved the name for X3D.
Isn't Zen6 client all going to be monolithic?
Rumor is desktop & mobile would share designs. Nothing about what those designs would be.