Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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AG907

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It smells as manure factory here.

So much bullshit, it's off the scale.
What bs? Are you denying the fact the US wasn't involved in the Maidan revolution which lead to Russia's invasion in 2014 or you denying the fact the US built military training base inside Ukraine after the fact.
 

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That moron thinks they are like country club dues. Countries are spending more because a land war was started in Europe by Russia.
Most European countries weren't paying sh1t towards NATO for decades. The US footed the bill for NATO since the end of WW2 and the Russian threat.


Here's an example:

 

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Wow, cool! Another “totally an American” new poster who just happens to make a brand new account and post hundreds of times in P&N from 2AM through 8:30AM EST. Can these dipshit Russian trolls be any more obvious? You guys are engaging with a bot.
 
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K1052

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Most European countries weren't paying sh1t towards NATO for decades. The US footed the bill for NATO since the end of WW2 and the Russian threat.

IT IS NOT DUES. The spending is on their own military readiness. Europe didn't seriously consider Russia a threat due to economic entanglement and their relative lack of aggressive action since the end of the Cold War. Their invasion of Ukraine in 2014 changed that analysis.
 

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"Ukraine better watch out or they'll be bombed and invaded more than they already have been for the last year and a half."
Putin doesn't want the US meddling in Ukraine politics, he doesn't want US military bases in Ukraine nor does he want Ukraine to join NATO. He's made that clear for nearly two decades now.
 

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"Ukraine better watch out or they'll be bombed and invaded more than they already have been for the last year and a half."

It is like the Russians threatening to use weapons (non-nuclear) in Ukraine that they have not before and my first question is what would those be exactly lol.
 
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Putin doesn't want the US meddling in Ukraine politics, he doesn't want US military bases in Ukraine nor does he want Ukraine to join NATO. He's made that clear for nearly two decades now.
When was Ukraine going to join NATO?
When were there going to be US bases in Ukraine? Why is it okay for Russia to meddle in Ukraine's politics? Why is it okay for Russia to invade it's sovereign neighbor?
 
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IT IS NOT DUES. The spending is on their own military readiness. Europe didn't seriously consider Russia a threat due to economic entanglement and their relative lack of aggressive action since the end of the Cold War. Their invasion of Ukraine in 2014 changed that analysis.
Other than the Brits, western Europeans have been pretty much worthless in regards to self defense since WW1. Germany rolled over western Europe like they were on a school field trip and the western Euros haven't changed. The Brits on the other hand are cut from a different cloth and I have a theory on that. British tribes mixed with Celts, Romans, Saxons, Vikings and Normans turned those people into something akin to hybrid killer bees hence the reason no sane person wants to go to war against the Brits.
 
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K1052

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Putin doesn't want the US meddling in Ukraine politics, he doesn't want US military bases in Ukraine nor does he want Ukraine to join NATO. He's made that clear for nearly two decades now.

Two points here:

1) The Ukrainians have agency and should get to decide what course they take as is their right as a sovereign nation. They did so and tossed out the Russian stooge who canned the EU association agreement that the people wanted.

2) Fuck Putin and what he wants. Literally could not care less.
 
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Other than the Brits, western Europeans have been pretty much worthless in regards to self defense since WW1. Germany rolled over western Europe like they were on a school field trip and the western Euros haven't changed. The Brits on the other hand are cut from a different cloth and I have a theory on that. British tribes mixed with Celts, Romans, Saxons, Vikings and Normans turned those people into something akin to hybrid killer bees hence the reason no sane person wants to go to war against the Brits.
Lol, breaking out the race "science".
 

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Two points here:

1) The Ukrainians have agency and should get to decide what course they take as is their right as a sovereign nation. They did so and tossed out the Russian stooge who canned the EU association agreement that the people wanted.

2) Fuck Putin and what he wants. Literally could not care less.
You would be hard pressed to find a more corrupt European country than Ukraine unless maybe it was Moldova. I have no problem with what Ukrainians want. The problem I have is Ukrainian politicians such as Zelensky selling their people out for the mighty dollar.
 
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AG907

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Lol, breaking out the race "science".
It's a theory is all. There's no other explanation that I can think of. I've worked with Brits on three different occasions (oil & mining) and trust me when I say those are about the last people on this planet that you ever want to brawl with in a bar scrap.
 

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You would be hard pressed to find a more corrupt European country than Ukraine unless maybe it was Moldova. I have no problem with what Ukrainians want. The problem I have is Ukrainian politicians such as Zelensky selling their people out for the mighty dollar.

Even though this isn't true it is hilarious because they are being attacked by the most corrupt nation on the planet. Russia isn't as much a country as it is a mob run gas station.
 

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Putin doesn't want the US meddling in Ukraine politics, he doesn't want US military bases in Ukraine nor does he want Ukraine to join NATO. He's made that clear for nearly two decades now.

Then Russia needs to stop invading it's neighbors. Ukraine is a sovereign country not a vassal state of Russia.
 
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AG907

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Then Russia needs to stop invading it's neighbors. Ukraine is a sovereign country not a vassal state of Russia.
Ukraine chose to become a vassal of the US when it decided to take US money in 2014. Honestly I feel bad for Ukrainians. They are caught in the middle of a US - Russia dispute. Those people have been used as pawns by both sides along with their corrupt politicians.
 

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Ukraine chose to become a vassal of the US when it decided to take US money in 2014. Honestly I feel bad for Ukrainians. They are caught in the middle of a US - Russia dispute. Those people have been used as pawns by both sides along with their corrupt politicians.

Taking foreign aid doesn't make a country a vassal state of that country providing aid.
Can you help me understand something. If Russian and Ukrainians are basically as Putin says "one people", why all the murdering, raping and looting of occupied Ukrainian territories by Russian troops? You would think if Russia was wanting to Annex the parts of Ukraine using force that had essentially Russians living their that you would make sure your troops behaved themselves. Violence by occupying troops against the civilian population is one sure way to make sure that they turn against the occupiers.

Today also marks 1,000 days since the start of Russians invasion of Ukraine.
 
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