Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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fskimospy

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Ukraine chose to become a vassal of the US when it decided to take US money in 2014. Honestly I feel bad for Ukrainians. They are caught in the middle of a US - Russia dispute. Those people have been used as pawns by both sides along with their corrupt politicians.
Nope. The only country making Ukraine fight is Russia, because Russia invaded them. Ukraine does not have to fight if they don't want to, the US is just giving them the means to defend themselves.

We should always remember that there is one country, and one country alone at fault here. That is Russia, as they started the war and could end it any time they want by simply choosing to stop invading their neighbor.
 

AG907

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Nope. The only country making Ukraine fight is Russia, because Russia invaded them. Ukraine does not have to fight if they don't want to, the US is just giving them the means to defend themselves.

We should always remember that there is one country, and one country alone at fault here. That is Russia, as they started the war and could end it any time they want by simply choosing to stop invading their neighbor.
Russia would never have invaded if the US had stayed out of Ukraine's business including politics.
 

AG907

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Even though this isn't true it is hilarious because they are being attacked by the most corrupt nation on the planet. Russia isn't as much a country as it is a mob run gas station.
And Ukraine isn't run by oligarchs?
 

fskimospy

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So if Ukraine hadn't acted independently as a sovereign nation none of this would happen? Did Ukraine also dress provocatively and go out alone at night?
Look if you don't want to be invaded by Russia then all you need to do is do whatever they tell you. If you don't well then isn't the invasion your fault?
 

K1052

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Because Ukraine attempted to move away from its position as a vassal state of Russia.

Which economically is a total no brainer if one looks at the wildly different outcomes of nations that stayed subservient to Russian interests and those that went into the EU. Russian leadership is a dead end of stagnation and poverty. Weird how people are largely not interested in it.
 
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repoman0

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Russia would never have invaded if the US had stayed out of Ukraine's business including politics.
It has to be the end of your shift by now. How cockroach shit of a life do you have to have to make your money posting here for eight hours straight?
 

AG907

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It has to be the end of your shift by now. How cockroach shit of a life do you have to have to make your money posting here for eight hours straight?
Why of course I must be a Russian paid troll for the crime of calling out facts. Nobody is allowed to have a different opinion in the echo chamber are they.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Ukraine chose to become a vassal of the US when it decided to take US money in 2014. Honestly I feel bad for Ukrainians. They are caught in the middle of a US - Russia dispute. Those people have been used as pawns by both sides along with their corrupt politicians.
I mean, based on that NK and Russia are vassal states of the US as well. I guess we better go put them back in their place.
 
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Jaskalas

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Most European countries weren't paying sh1t towards NATO for decades. The US footed the bill for NATO since the end of WW2 and the Russian threat.
Americans, after fighting WW2, knew the VALUE of ensuring peace throughout Europe.
It is an investment of little cost, compared to the expenditures we would endure with yet another land war.

You stink of MAGA, a belief that America should abandon its position in the world and hand everything over to Russia and China. Where, in our absence, the big fish eat the little fish.
You are the antithesis of the post-war peace that we have all benefited from, and the world of prosperity that we grew up in. You want to watch the world burn.

Only a minion of Russia/China would advocate for America abandoning the world stage.
 

AG907

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Americans, after fighting WW2, knew the VALUE of ensuring peace throughout Europe.
It is an investment of little cost, compared to the expenditures we would endure with yet another land war.

You stink of MAGA, a belief that America should abandon its position in the world and hand everything over to Russia and China. Where, in our absence, the big fish eat the little fish.
You are the antithesis of the post-war peace that we have all benefited from, and the world of prosperity that we grew up in. You want to watch the world burn.
Fact of the matter is most European countries weren't paying their fare share towards NATO for decades. Other than the Brits, Western Euros rolled over and flopped when the Germans invaded and would have done the same if the Russians hadn't been checked by the Americans and Brits. France, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium ... all rolled over.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Fact of the matter is most European countries weren't paying their fare share towards NATO for decades. Other than the Brits, Western Euros rolled over and flopped when the Germans invaded and would have done the same if the Russians hadn't been checked by the Americans and Brits. France, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium ... all rolled over.
You know NATO doesn't cost anything right? It's a bunch of people in a room. Nobody's 'paying in' to NATO.

Do you actually have any idea how the world works or is English just your second language?
 
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AG907

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You know NATO doesn't cost anything right? It's a bunch of people in a room. Nobody's 'paying in' to NATO.

Do you actually have any idea how the world works or is English just your second language?
The US has asked the Euros to put 2% of their GDP towards their defense for years now. Other than the Brits the western Euros were zero help in WW2 and I doubt that has changed much over the years if we ever had to go head to head vs the Russians. Western Euros just don't have the fight in them anymore and haven't for years now.
 

Jaskalas

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Fact of the matter is most European countries weren't paying their fare share towards NATO for decades. Other than the Brits, Western Euros rolled over and flopped when the Germans invaded and would have done the same if the Russians hadn't been checked by the Americans and Brits. France, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium ... all rolled over.
And this is the outcome you desire?
For Europe to "roll over" for Russia?
 
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