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WelshBloke

Lifer
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I would have loved to have had the chance to sit down and talk with that man.
It wouldn't have gone the way you think that it would.
He hated authoritarians of any ilk. He was at the least a democratic socialist right until the end though.
 
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AG907

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It wouldn't have gone the way you think that it would.
He hated authoritarians of any ilk. He was at the least a democratic socialist right until the end though.
He was far from the man that he was in the early 1930's when he passed away. Again the Spanish Civil War changed him bigly.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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He was far from the man that he was in the early 1930's when he passed away. Again the Spanish Civil War changed him bigly.
Lol. I love how you refuse to answer any questions or even look up any basic information about him and just go with your feelings and your (totally without merit) beliefs!

Honestly you could just go read his Wikipedia entry. It's a bit shallow but I can imagine you having a very bad time reading that!
 

AG907

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Lol. I love how you refuse to answer any questions or even look up any basic information about him and just go with your feelings and your (totally without merit) beliefs!

Honestly you could just go read his Wikipedia entry. It's a bit shallow but I can imagine you having a very bad time reading that!
Hemingway wrote about Orwell after the Spanish Civil war. His take on the man was mixed. btw they both served in the same brigade outside of Barcelona.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Lol. I love how you refuse to answer any questions or even look up any basic information about him and just go with your feelings and your (totally without merit) beliefs!

Honestly you could just go read his Wikipedia entry. It's a bit shallow but I can imagine you having a very bad time reading that!

I’m not convinced this poster has read any of what he claims to have.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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I’m not convinced this poster has read any of what he claims to have.
Yup.
I have a shelf downstairs with literally all Orwell's books on. My son, at the moment, is reading The road to Wigan pier (read it, it's fantastic), and my daughters class at school is doing Animal Farm.
I'm amazed at his cockeyed view of the subject matter. It's a shame to be so ignorant about someone you profess to understand and admire.
 
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AG907

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I’m not convinced this poster has read any of what he claims to have.
And you've yet to impress me. Again read the animal farm and 1984 and tell me how far right Orwell moved since before the spanish civil war. It's obvious to a blind man.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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And you've yet to impress me. Again read the animal farm and 1984 and tell me how far right Orwell moved since before the spanish civil war. It's obvious to a blind man.
Explain why you think he moved right?
He was always against totalitarianism and authoritarianism regardless of where on the political spectrum it was. Not liking Stalin doesn't mean he moved to the right it's just consistent with his dislike of authoritarians.
 

QueBert

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I'm guessing Gaelic is still the main language in Wales.

My car was stolen by a white Tweaker, does the fact it was a US born citizen somehow make it better? There's no nation emergency. Trump was feeding into people's inner racism to get votes.

Now there will be a national emergency if he actually follows thru and starts deporting illegals by the millions
 

AG907

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My car was stolen by a white Tweaker, does the fact it was a US born citizen somehow make it better? There's no nation emergency. Trump was feeding into people's inner racism to get votes.
Why of course you don't have a problem with Americans being victimized in their own country by illegal alien criminals. And I bet you also don't have a problem with the Democrats and cartels running the biggest child trafficking operation ever recorded.

 

ch33zw1z

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Why of course you don't have a problem with Americans being victimized in their own country by illegal alien criminals. And I bet you also don't have a problem with the Democrats and cartels running the biggest child trafficking operation ever recorded.

Hook line and sinker
 
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VashHT

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I'm sure he was just as concerned when trump was locking kids up in cages and separating them from their families.
 

ch33zw1z

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I'm sure he was just as concerned when trump was locking kids up in cages and separating them from their families.

Or when Trump creeps on his own daughter, or was convicted of sexual assault, or credibly accused of rape, or known as epsteins best bud, the list goes on. lol, but trolls gonna troll
 

RalphTheCow

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Trump has been handed a mandate and we all know the policies he ran on. With that said he's deporting the violent ones first and after that he's going after the rest of them.
< 50% seems a little slim of a mandate to me.
 

AG907

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I'm sure he was just as concerned when trump was locking kids up in cages and separating them from their families.
Kids in cages you say ...




Separating migrant children you say ..... so did Kamala ...







Surprise surprise ...

 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Why of course you don't have a problem with Americans being victimized in their own country by illegal alien criminals. And I bet you also don't have a problem with the Democrats and cartels running the biggest child trafficking operation ever recorded.


Oh boy are you going to be mad when you hear about the guy before Biden is also involved!

 

ivwshane

Lifer
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lol You guys all see the problem here? Look at all his sources. None of them give him all the information and he repeats it uncritically. This is what this country is up against. As soon as you refute/correct him, he’ll pop up with another claim based off of more misinformation.
 

AG907

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Oh boy are you going to be mad when you hear about the guy before Biden is also involved!

Experts eh. Too late for that bs. Biden's DHS already admitted to Congress that they can't locate 300,000+ migrant children. Now try and spin that.
 
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QueBert

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Why of course you don't have a problem with Americans being victimized in their own country by illegal alien criminals. And I bet you also don't have a problem with the Democrats and cartels running the biggest child trafficking operation ever recorded.


If every illegal was gone, my car still would have been stolen. I have a problem with crime, I don't give a shit who's committing it. I've been the victim of 6 crimes, and none were illegals. And again, if no illegals were here, I'd still have been a victim of 6 crimes. So no, illegals aren't a big concern for me. To me it sounds like you're fine with crime, so long as it's red blooded Americans committing it. I don't have any American friends who were victims of this illegal alien crime you're obsessed with. Does it exist? Sure, but it's not anything close to what Trump's trying to make it out to be. I'll focus on the 95% of crime in my city that's people who were born here, the 5% that are illegals doesn't effect me like the 95%. Sure I want all crime to end, but if I have to focus on 1, it won't be the minority.

Again I speak 1st hand from someone who lives by the border in a county full of Illegals. Real world beats reading shit on teh intewebs and watching a biased channel like Fox News as your source of info.
 
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AG907

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lol You guys all see the problem here? Look at all his sources. None of them give him all the information and he repeats it uncritically. This is what this country is up against. As soon as you refute/correct him, he’ll pop up with another claim based off of more misinformation.
You're up against facts ..that's what you are up against atm in the here and now.
 
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AG907

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If every illegal was gone, my car still would have been stolen. I have a problem with crime, I don't give a shit who's committing it. I've been the victim of 6 crimes, and none were illegals. And again, if no illegals were here, I'd still have been a victim of 6 crimes. So no, illegals aren't a big concern for me. To me it sounds like you're fine with crime, so long as it's red blooded Americans committing it. I don't have any American friends who were victims of this illegal alien crime you're obsessed with. Does it exist? Sure, but it's not anything close to what Trump's trying to make it out to be. I'll focus on the 95% of crime in my city that's people who were born here, the 5% that are illegals doesn't effect me like the 95%. Sure I want all crime to end, but if I have to focus on 1, it won't be the minority.

Again I speak 1st hand from someone who lives by the border in a county full of Illegals. Real world beats reading shit on teh intewebs and watching a biased channel like Fox News as your source of info.
Now there's some leftist logic. "Because there's Americans that commit crime, we shouldn't have a problem with illegal alien criminals committing crime in the US."
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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You're up against facts ..that's what you are up against atm in the here and now.

Well then I’m going to follow your lead and just ignore the “facts” you post because they are fake news and my feels are realer than yours so I win.
 
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