#TRUMPFLATION - everything that's gotten more expensive under Trump!

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QueBert

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The extent to which everybody simply sees what they want in Trump despite all evidence to the contrary needs to be studied in a lab.

A MAGA just replied to me on a YT video that Trump is playing "advanced 3d chess" with who he's picking for his cabinet. I laughed at the fact they were serious, I also laughed at the thought of Trump actually understanding how to play chess. I'm pretty sure he's perplexed by Checkers.

I also have no fuckin idea what 3d chess is, I don't think they know either.
 
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yottabit

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Dropped my employer provided medical, which cost more than 10k for the year, not counting any deductions. For 2024 they had to raise it 10%.

Wife enrolled us in an equivalent but better ACA plan. I kept my Vision, Dental, and accidental life dismemberment insurance, for myself and spouse. About 10 less than last years bi weekly rate. Now my employers medical, I had the top tier as I am getting older, was approx 341 BI-WEEKLY not sure how much employer provided. This open enrollment it would've went to 400+ BI-WEEKLY.

The ACA plan is 87 dollars per month, with lower out of pocket maximum, and 3k each out of pocket vs 2024 employers 4.5k out of pocket before 80/20 kicked in. ACA is lower office visits, lower prescription co pay, unless non generic.

I am saving my car payment + some a month.
Yup. I know I’ve ranted about it in several threads. I pay almost exactly $1,000/mo for my employee sponsored health insurance family plan. It’s insane. I wouldn’t feel bad if I had a dozen kids or something but we’ve only got the one

And the out of pocket expense for the delivery was higher than expected (about $7k overall) because this being ‘Murica baby got her own deductible and out of pocket maximum as soon as she was born, and required some patting down from NICU nurses. Read some things saying that’s basically illegal to be charged this way and all delivery related charges should go under the mother but didn’t feel like fighting it out at the time with everything else going on.

So effectively $19k in just pure medical expenses for the privilege of having a child and people wonder why more of my generation isn’t having kids

I think more people should be aware of how the ACA determines “affordable cost” and who is eligible for subsidies. For now I’m over the income limits but in the future there’s a good chance it will make sense for me to switch to individual coverage through employer (which they cover almost completely) and buy ACA plans for the wife and baby

  • For coverage starting January 1, if you’re offered job-based coverage through a household member’s job, affordability is based on the premium amount to cover everyone in the household.
All that being said I obviously think good health insurance is necessary and worthwhile. While I think it’s a bit absurd I pay the $12k a year in premiums for peace of mind.

I just really, really wish we had a single payer system, M4A or otherwise. It makes more sense, it’s easier for literally everyone (employers don’t like having to manage health insurance either), it’s the most efficient, it’s used everywhere else, it’s so hard to come up with a reason against it that isn’t for the exclusive benefit of a select group.

By the way - being a dad is great I can 11/10 recommend provided you have a pile of cash to burn
 

Indus

Lifer
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From Bidenomics to TrumpTrickledown is going to be one hella thing to observe, especially when it hits the working class folks that voted for Trump and they totally ignore it because they don't want to face the fact that they did it to themselves.

In all honestly it's Trump TRICKLE UP.. as we're squeezed from Trumpflation.. our wealth goes to the top 1% and we have even less and less.

In all honesty we don't even have a middle class or a working class.. we have become the WORKING POOR or actually the OVERWORKED POOR and they want to replace us with foreign workers to who they have to pay even less!
 
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Indus

Lifer
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The extent to which everybody simply sees what they want in Trump despite all evidence to the contrary needs to be studied in a lab.

I think the easiest comparison/ explanation I can come up with is.. you know how the mind creates desires and gets turned on by stuff that's bad for you. It's similar to that with Trump!

And just like the first drug/ fetish high.. they double down and want to chase the dragon!

Families throughout America know what that does to family.. they know it's bad but they're powerless to stop it. Infact sometimes coming on AT here and seeing people defending and arguing for Trumpism is like being at a AA meeting where the majority just go back to their drug of choice anyways!
 
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K1052

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I just really, really wish we had a single payer system, M4A or otherwise. It makes more sense, it’s easier for literally everyone (employers don’t like having to manage health insurance either), it’s the most efficient, it’s used everywhere else, it’s so hard to come up with a reason against it that isn’t for the exclusive benefit of a select group.

May Joe Lieberman rest in piss.
 

uallas5

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Trump: We're just gonna drill until gas is $1.50 a gallon again.

Oil companies: Um...no because we will lose an ass ton of money doing that.

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Gas prices will start to fall when OPEC starts producing more in December, which they announced last month. That would add to the above because the oil from shale oil fields is more expensive to produce, so expect US producers to pull back on that production, not increase it. But will gas go to $1.50 a gallon, no not ever again unless they manage to trigger a depression level economic crisis.
 
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Gas prices will start to fall when OPEC starts producing more in December, which they announced last month. That would add to the above because the oil from shale oil fields is more expensive to produce, so expect US producers to pull back on that production, not increase it. But will gas go to $1.50 a gallon, no not ever again unless they manage to trigger a depression level economic crisis.
Gas is already so cheap. I don't know what people are whining about.

I remember $3+/gal in 2005-2006 (which was getting pricey at the time), and I can easily find that same price here in 2024. Throw in nearly 20 years of inflation, and we can see that gas is pretty freaking cheap. It's also why people buy their inefficient land barges.
 

brycejones

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Gas is already so cheap. I don't know what people are whining about.

I remember $3+/gal in 2005-2006 (which was getting pricey at the time), and I can easily find that same price here in 2024. Throw in nearly 20 years of inflation, and we can see that gas is pretty freaking cheap. It's also why people buy their inefficient land barges.
But for 2 weeks 5 years ago gas was $1.50. Trump is going to bring those good times back.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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Gas prices will start to fall when OPEC starts producing more in December, which they announced last month. That would add to the above because the oil from shale oil fields is more expensive to produce, so expect US producers to pull back on that production, not increase it. But will gas go to $1.50 a gallon, no not ever again unless they manage to trigger a depression level economic crisis.

Yeah I honestly can't make up my mind if Trump wants the stock market and economy to go up or go down..
 

K1052

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Gas prices will start to fall when OPEC starts producing more in December, which they announced last month. That would add to the above because the oil from shale oil fields is more expensive to produce, so expect US producers to pull back on that production, not increase it. But will gas go to $1.50 a gallon, no not ever again unless they manage to trigger a depression level economic crisis.

When the shale guys get squeezed they're totally gonna squeal to Trump to get OPEC to cut again. Time for him to solicit competing bribes from the US oil industry and the Middle East oil industry I guess.
 

uallas5

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Gas is already so cheap. I don't know what people are whining about.

I remember $3+/gal in 2005-2006 (which was getting pricey at the time), and I can easily find that same price here in 2024. Throw in nearly 20 years of inflation, and we can see that gas is pretty freaking cheap. It's also why people buy their inefficient land barges.
The Mobil station near my house is $2.83 and has been under $3 for months so I agree. It's 2024, how cheap is it supposed to be?
 

brycejones

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This is honestly what at least some people expect. They remembered the parts of 2020 that they liked (government stim checks, low gas prices) and blanked out the parts they didn't (mass death, historic economic crisis).
Yeah all you need is a global depression, everyone at home, and oil to have basically a negative value. It’s so simple any idiot president can do it but Biden was weak.
 

K1052

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Yeah I honestly can't make up my mind if Trump wants the stock market and economy to go up or go down..

He wants stocks to go up which is why the only cabinet pick he spent any time thinking about was for Treasury. The stock market is his personal barometer of success and he loves numbers going up, hates them going down. Now it's certainly possible that the economy for lower and middle class people worsens due to his policies and the market still goes up if they get tax cuts and other favorable policy treatments.

This would be very very good for me personally but bad for most of the country.
 

MtnMan

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I was holding out on replacing my laptop. Old one was running fine, but just 1 processor version below the criteria for Windows 11. With support going away for Windows 10 next fall, I was looking to replace it next summer.

Saw an estimate that laptops could go up as much as 45% under Trumps stupidity, I went ahead and pulled the trigger. Got to admit the new one (certified refurbished by HP) is a big improvement, and taming Windows 11 is not that difficult, thanks to YouTube.
 

K1052

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I was holding out on replacing my laptop. Old one was running fine, but just 1 processor version below the criteria for Windows 11. With support going away for Windows 10 next fall, I was looking to replace it next summer.

Saw an estimate that laptops could go up as much as 45% under Trumps stupidity, I went ahead and pulled the trigger. Got to admit the new one (certified refurbished by HP) is a big improvement, and taming Windows 11 is not that difficult, thanks to YouTube.

Seen a lot of people pulling forward appliance purchases too.
 
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DaaQ

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A MAGA just replied to me on a YT video that Trump is playing "advanced 3d chess" with who he's picking for his cabinet. I laughed at the fact they were serious, I also laughed at the thought of Trump actually understanding how to play chess. I'm pretty sure he's perplexed by Checkers.

I also have no fuckin idea what 3d chess is, I don't think they know either.
It's something that was parroted during Obama's term. That's why they remember it.

Yeah I honestly can't make up my mind if Trump wants the stock market and economy to go up or go down..
Could possibly be to sell all his shares of whatever then crash it? Might be the only way he can really become a billionaire. (Hopefully not that insane though)

$.05 a gallon like it was in gandpappy’s day
I do remember it being .65 to .85 cents a gallon. I think it was closing in on a dollar when I got my license. 2 door Chevy Chevette for 100 dollars. Drove it a couple years until I could find one with a manual transmission.

Funny thing. I used to rent it to my friend's sister's boyfriend for 50 bucks a day so he could take her on dates.

I was holding out on replacing my laptop. Old one was running fine, but just 1 processor version below the criteria for Windows 11. With support going away for Windows 10 next fall, I was looking to replace it next summer.

Saw an estimate that laptops could go up as much as 45% under Trumps stupidity, I went ahead and pulled the trigger. Got to admit the new one (certified refurbished by HP) is a big improvement, and taming Windows 11 is not that difficult, thanks to YouTube.
That's why I spent the 30 dollar increase MSRP of the 9800x3d over 78003d launch price. It may go down some but after January it very well could increase significantly. I am hoping to be able to grab another 4TB drive by cyber Monday. If it's same or cheaper than one I got this week. Or may get new DDR5 ram. Only grabbed a 32GB pack.
 

mikeymikec

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I was holding out on replacing my laptop. Old one was running fine, but just 1 processor version below the criteria for Windows 11. With support going away for Windows 10 next fall, I was looking to replace it next summer.

Saw an estimate that laptops could go up as much as 45% under Trumps stupidity, I went ahead and pulled the trigger. Got to admit the new one (certified refurbished by HP) is a big improvement, and taming Windows 11 is not that difficult, thanks to YouTube.

It's pretty easy to in-place install Win11 on an "unsupported" PC. If your need for yours is "mission critical" then I would probably avoid the risk, but otherwise I would recommend giving it a try. I've installed Win11 on several PCs without issue so far.
 
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JujuFish

Lifer
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Yeah all you need is a global depression, everyone at home, and oil to have basically a negative value. It’s so simple any idiot president can do it but Biden was weak.
Not basically a negative value. Literally a negative value. Oil futures went negative when Russia got into an oil war with Saudi Arabia.
 

pmv

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Anyone who isn't stupid, understands that the liberal agenda to make energy more expensive and increase regulations, increases cost of almost everything.

As opposed to the conservative agenda to destroy the organised labour movement, decrease regulations, and increase the cost of almost everything? A three-stage plan to immiserate the working class and redistribute wealth upward.
 
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manly

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Gas is already so cheap. I don't know what people are whining about.

I remember $3+/gal in 2005-2006 (which was getting pricey at the time), and I can easily find that same price here in 2024. Throw in nearly 20 years of inflation, and we can see that gas is pretty freaking cheap. It's also why people buy their inefficient land barges.
Not to play Devil's advocate, but prices did spike nearly two years ago. Muricans are really dumb about gas prices. In the Bush era you referred to, $4 was the absolute pain point for most people. Now it's higher than that but only temporarily gets car buyers to evaluate their poor decisions (two years ago, there was some chatter about people seeking out fuel efficiency. Didn't last long.) People just like to whine about the "libs" (see above).

All that aside, China is rapidly electrifying its transportation sector. Although their total carbon emissions are still increasing, it seems like there's plenty of global supply to meet and exceed long-term demand for crude oil. U.S. producers are sitting on leases and aren't itching to start a price war they can't win. The U.S. has been a top 2 producer for years now, but we can never approach the Saudis' profit margins.
 
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