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He looks like he’s perpetually trying to imitate a George Washington painting.
Seems many people are quite upset, to the point, they like to see Joe gone.Are you kidding me? Joe still repeats Clinton hate memes to this day. No surprise. He just hated Trump, that's all his appeal was to me.
EDIT: In the big picture for MSNBC, it would appear that their effort to appear sort of fair was to employ several ex-Republicans as their talking heads. Worked out, right?
Space-X can't do a 10th of everything NASA does, but I doubt anyone on the right would see that. He's got them completely conned like Trump.
Unfortunately the general public almost certainly has the same impression. Even now all of Elmo's ventures, but especially Space-X bets an enormous amount of gushing free publicity from mainstream media-including the right wing ones.Space-X can't do a 10th of everything NASA does, but I doubt anyone on the right would see that. He's got them completely conned like Trump.
Space-X can't do a 10th of everything NASA does, but I doubt anyone on the right would see that. He's got them completely conned like Trump.
Are we talking about replacing SLS with Starship?Unfortunately the general public almost certainly has the same impression. Even now all of Elmo's ventures, but especially Space-X bets an enormous amount of gushing free publicity from mainstream media-including the right wing ones.
Frankly I'll be surprised if SLS ever carries cargo. It's been a pretty overt pork project for senators for like two decades.Are we talking about replacing SLS with Starship?
To start let me just state I have no direct knowledge of any plans to change boosters for Orion / Artemis.
The current plans that require a starship are for Artemis III where the lunar lander (HLS) will be based on Starship. The astronauts go up in an Orion on an SLS and transfer to HLS around the moon. Go to the moon. Leave the moon and rendezvous with Orion to come home.
HLS will take many Starship launches. It needs a refueling depot and for that depot to be fueled.
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Now SLS is expensive. The booster by itself was pegged at $2.2B for a launch. Which is large portion of the Artemis budget. Boeing BTW is the integrator for SLS.
Finally, we know production costs for SLS and Orion, and they’re wild
Someone finally said the quiet part out loud.arstechnica.com
The press has derogatorily called it the “Senate Launch System” because several powerful senators who wanted to keep their Shuttle era workforces employed legislated NASA would use it.
Starship if it works should cost a fraction of SLS to fly so might make sense from a budget standpoint. However if someone decides starship is going to launch Orion there will be be a lot of technical integration and recertification that would have to happen.