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Tup3x

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If the price is good and performance equal or better than 4060 Ti, then they are in rather good spot.
 
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511

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I have no idea why Intel wants to debut its nextgen gpu with a midrange part. Give it to the OEMs dang it! Enthusiasts want a halo part. Where is the B980???

I wonder how much it costs to put an image of Pat on a pillow cover. At least then I can punch the pillow everyday and hope it has some kind of voodoo effect on him and he realizes that he is making someone very. very mad.
We need a pat body pillow 😂🤣
 

DavidC1

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I have no idea why Intel wants to debut its nextgen gpu with a midrange part. Give it to the OEMs dang it! Enthusiasts want a halo part. Where is the B980???
You know there's no true halo part on Battlemage.

Best is 4070 Ti, and maybe, maybe 4080 on a real lucky day if they can get reliable 3.2GHz clocks on the 32 Xe core version.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Can we just take a moment to point out what a terrible naming scheme Intel has settled on here?

When I see a B580 I automatically assume it's a lesser model to the A580, since the public school system has taught me A>B>C etc.

I feel like Intel is making life difficult for itself just for the sake of being different.
 

gdansk

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Can we just take a moment to point out what a terrible naming scheme Intel has settled on here?

When I see a B580 I automatically assume it's a lesser model to the A580, since the public school system has taught me A>B>C etc.

I feel like Intel is making life difficult for itself just for the sake of being different.
I don't mind it. It's different but seems predictable enough.
 
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MrTeal

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Can we just take a moment to point out what a terrible naming scheme Intel has settled on here?

When I see a B580 I automatically assume it's a lesser model to the A580, since the public school system has taught me A>B>C etc.

I feel like Intel is making life difficult for itself just for the sake of being different.
That doesn't seem right. I think it's X>B>A, or maybe Z>H>B.
 

DavidC1

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Can we just take a moment to point out what a terrible naming scheme Intel has settled on here?

When I see a B580 I automatically assume it's a lesser model to the A580, since the public school system has taught me A>B>C etc.

I feel like Intel is making life difficult for itself just for the sake of being different.
It couldn't be better.

It starts with Alchemist, and thus it's A580. Then the next code name is Battlemage so it's B580. The next is Celestial and C580. After that it's Druid and D580.

I wish they could use a more straightforward naming elsewhere.
 

Hans Gruber

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Safe to say the target performance of the B580 should be a 4060/4060Ti/RX 6800 type performance. There is not much of a performance difference between the 4060/4060ti. The 30 series cards had a huge difference in performance between the 3060 and 3060ti.
 

511

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It will only be issue for Pci-E 3 boards Pci-4 X8 will be fine i care about the PPA of this gen it will decide the fate of celestial
 

MrTeal

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x8 is fine even on v3. It's x4 that's a problem.
Yeah TPU's PCIe scaling on the 4090 showed it getting 94% @ 1080/1440 and 92% @ 4k of full performance even at 2.0 x16 / 3.0 x6 bandwidth, and B580 isn't going to come that close to 4090 performance. That's also manually clocking down the PCIe bandwidth on a 5800X system, if you're actually forced to run PCIe 3.0 because of your CPU/MB you're probably losing more to a CPU bottleneck than PCIe bandwidth. It's that next step down to 1.1 x16 / 2.0 x8 / 3.0 x4 that really goes off the rails.
 

MrTeal

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Arc 140V Xe2 iGPU is awesome.

Doesn't this mean that Battlemage discrete GPUs will be good too?
The Strix Point SOC in those games is running with a way lower power limit. The GPU is running at less than half the frequency of the Xe GPU in CS2, it's hard to make any real comparison off that with them so far apart.
 

moinmoin

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Updated:

"I used the default setting of ffmpeg (-c:v hevc_videotoolbox -q:v <qp, from 5 to 100>).

I checked ffmpeg source code, they indeed did not set the GOP length by default. So I re-run the tests with key frame interval=120 frames specified, now I got some better results.
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I'm surprised how relatively bad Apple is at this.
 
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